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Discussion in 'Whitetail Deer Hunting' started by Jeffrey J Eberhardt, Aug 23, 2019.

  1. Jeffrey J Eberhardt

    Jeffrey J Eberhardt Newb

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    I need help with my form. ( not my belly). Dont hold back. Everything helps. Thanks.
     

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    Fix Grizzled Veteran

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    Try pushing with your left arm instead of pulling with your right, it might address that high shoulder. (Open your grip too)
    Good luck
     
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    wl704 Legendary Woodsman

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    Start with changing your grip on the riser. When you wrap all your fingers around it there is a tendency to torque it.

    Over the years I've either placed my index finger on the front of the riser or touched my index finger to my thumb. Pushing the riser with that v where your thumb meets your palm. Your knuckles will be angled, some say 45 degrees to the riser. Similar to the below. [​IMG]
     
  4. Jeffrey J Eberhardt

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    I try to drop my elbow because I know I get it to high, but when I do my shoulder rises. I will definitely try to push instead of pull. Never thought of that.
    With my grip. My hand is completely relaxed. I was told that is a must. Never tried touching the index and thumb.
    I really appreciate the help. If you guys have any more info on helping me with my form i will try it. I consider my shooting ok but i want to be much better.
    THANKS AGAIN for all the help.
     
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    Fix Grizzled Veteran

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    With that outfit it's tricky to say but I think you need to square up your hips as well.
     
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    Jeffrey J Eberhardt Newb

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    Yep got nothing about my clothes. It was just one of those days when you say f*** it, this is what I am wearing to work. But yes I do see I need to square up my hips. Thanks
     
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    John T. Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I think it's your bow. Send it to me and buy another one. :lol: I have small hands so thumb and forefinger touching would be out of the question for me unless I had a smaller bow grip. A front photo would be a plus. If you look at Olympic or top 3D shooters, they only have the thumb and forefinger on the grip. The other fingers are splayed out an an angle. Hope this makes sense. BTW, search for the 2016 Olympics and look for the archery competitions.
     
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    The angle isn't great but you look all tweaked out of shape. It looks like your pivoting back at the waist like your draw length is way too long, even the wrinkles in your shirt appear to be from leaning back so much. You also appear to have most of your weight on your back leg...either from uneven ground or from pivoting back so much to accommodate too long of a draw.

    Try to post a pic with the camera square to you. Need to see your whole body head to toe like you did in the first pic. Aim at something high enough that the drawn arrow is close to level, and make sure you are standing on even ground.
    This thread has a good discussion on form.
    https://forums.bowhunting.com/threads/critique-my-form.95853/
     
  9. Jeffrey J Eberhardt

    Jeffrey J Eberhardt Newb

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    Ya the angle isn't great. My draw length is 28.5 and the bow is set at 28. The weight is mostly on my back leg, because that's the way I stand. I will try and not do that. I will try and take another pic this weekend. I feel like I am making excuses for way I do one thing or another. And I dont mean to. I am just trying to give all the information i can to help you all help me. Thank you all for the help. I really appreciate it. And a side note I have been bow hunting for 8 years. And have shot a deer 4 out of 8 years. I love this sport and want to be better then I am. Thank you all again.
     
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    Ok been working on my form. Is this any better
     

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    Elbow is a little high and move the loose change from your right to your left pocket
    Much better than last time. Just remember, making sure it's good for a picture and doing it Everytime are two completely different things. Good luck
     
  12. Jeffrey J Eberhardt

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    Thank you very much. Been practicing all week. Shooting 50 to 100 shots a day until that form felt completely comfortable. I didnt want to take another pic until I tried all the things you guys said. That and there was no one to take the pic till today. Still have work to do. Thank you very much for the advice. Any more advice is welcome. No holding back please. Let me have it. Thanks.
     
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    2nd pic looks a lot better than 1st. Just keep practicing and get comfortable. One thing I have been working on is going through a mental checklist every time I practice to make sure my form is perfect so when there is an animal in my sights I won't be all out of whack. I know a lot of people recommend it but practice at twice the distance you are comfortable shooting an animal at. I have been doing 80% of my practice the last two weeks at 60+ yards so that 30 yard shot will be a slam dunk on an animal. As I am sure you know every mistake is exaggerated the further you shoot so that is a good way to see if there are glaring holes in what you are doing!
     
  14. Jeffrey J Eberhardt

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    I am good at 20 and 30 yards. 40 and 50 needed work. That was one of the reasons I asked for help. I needed to break my old habits of bad form. Have yet to try over 40. Wanted to be comfortable with my form before i am worrying about the rang.
     
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    As I get further out, the things that I noticed which became more and more important are:

    Anchor points (release knuckles on jaw (thumb trigger), string to tip of nose, vane just barely touching my beard).

    Peep and sight housing alignment.

    Holding the bow vertical and checking that my bubble level is, well, level.

    Pulling through the shot.

    Not punching the trigger.
     
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    Practicing at 40 and 50 can help your shorter range shots but only so long as you don’t get into bad habits BECAUSE you can’t hold as steady at those longer ranges. You can get into some target panic if you are not careful. To be honest I’d recommend for a guy working on his form and release to also spend some time shooting at point blank range like 8-10 yards. By doing so you can remove some of the difficulty of holding your pin on target and just focus on good form and clean release. If you have a safe place to do it you can even shoot from 10 feet with your eyes closed to practice squeezing off clean releases with target panic completely out of the equation.

    Your form looks better for sure. Keep working. Good luck.
     

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