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Yeti commits suicide

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by dnoodles, Apr 23, 2018.

  1. Germ

    Germ Legendary Woodsman

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    "The NRA Foundation is a charitable organization, and Yeti products have long been a staple at Friends of NRA Foundation Banquets.
    Yeti Coolers is now cutting ties with the NRA Foundation without explanation or notice. #BoycottYetiCoolers"



    "A few weeks ago, YETI® notified the NRA Foundation, as well as a number of other organizations, that we were eliminating a group of outdated discounting programs. When we notified the NRA Foundation and the other organizations of this change, YETI explained that we were offering them an alternative customization program broadly available to consumers and organizations, including the NRA Foundation. These facts directly contradict the inaccurate statement the NRA-ILA distributed on April 20."

    If you ask a non-sycophant they tell you NRA is wrong, you carry on.
     
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    That is hearsay, not evidence. The NRA has their own side of the story too. Rather then insist that one side or the other is “wrong.” I already stated what I think happened earlier and I’m not gonna repeat it.

    However I will not dig in and say “I’m right, anyone else with a different opinion is wrong and a lemming” without any proof to back my claims up. Truth is nobody but the NRA, Yeti and God knows how it went down. So it’s not any use arguing about it any more.


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  3. Germ

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    Being wrong or right does not make you lemming;)
     
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    The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. Ronald Reagan
     
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    What's funny is by today standards Reagan would be a liberal.
     
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    Yeti already got their money. Yeti does not care. That was stupidly juvenile; this is the kind of behavior from members of the NRA that is making the NRA less valid or even needed when it comes to issues of the 2A.
     
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    I can see it now, Ronald Reagan wearing a pussy hat, flying an LGBT flag and “screaming not my president”


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    Whatever lets you sleep at night.
     
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    while I'm 100% willing to consider that the NRA is in the wrong on the topic of this thread; this is the most ridiculous statement contained herein. (Unless you're talking Governor Reagan vs. Pres. Reagan.)

    Overall, Conservatives as a school of thought haven't moved to the right one bit in 30 years. The Libs have veered 45* hard left; with the media wailing that the Right is getting further away when all they are doing is staying in place.
     
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    Live in a bubble that's fine, but both sides have moved. I understand why both sides think they are right, it's all they know, it's all they read. In 1980's the NRA would have not acted this way, nor would it's members. Just a logical progression as the left has moved, the right follows. Some of the movement is in response to the left going nuts, I get that, to state conservatives have not moved is, well funny.

    Show me a conservative today that would state the below

    "This bill demonstrates for all time our nation's ironclad commitment to Social Security" Reagan
     
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    dnoodles Legendary Woodsman

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    me.
    Many Conservatives hate Social Security. I despise it. But we don't deny the reality of its existence and understand that it is a contract between the government and the people. We also understand that the USG has violated that trust and been using us peters to pay their pauls for decades.

    Only the most extreme (idiot) would say "terminate SS tomorrow with nothing to replace it." There would be either blood in the streets or at the very least in the ballot boxes. Some of us want to privatize it, some of us want to phase it out, some want to raise the age, or any number of reforms. But all of us recognize that the SS system in its current form is unsustainable. And doing nothing about it or the usual Swamp tactic of throwing more money at a problem w/o structural/systemic reforms is idiotic. That's OUR money- not theirs. My wife and I pay well over $1000/mo into Social Security. I'm pretty sure we are not going to see anywhere near that return. But even if we do; it amounts to a 30 year interest free loan to the government. I could do much more with my own money than that.

    Social Security is a prime example of throwing good money after bad. So is blowing up a $500 cooler just to run out and buy another $500 cooler with a different sticker on it. But the difference is choice- if someone wants to flush $1000 down the drain in the name of protest that's their right and their prerogative. The NRA didn't ask them to do it. Nobody is forcing them to do it. But we don't have the freedom to "opt out" of paying into Social Security, and that's tyranny. Tyranny with a benevolent veneer; but tyranny nonetheless.
     
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    They hate it, until those checks come;)
     
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    Well said, DNoodles.
     
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    I can agree with what you said, here's my question?

    What happens when/if you get sick? How much money will you need to care for a loved one? Why do you think the number 1 caused of bankruptcy is medical bills? You can talk all you want about saving money and the tyranny, but there may come a day where that tyranny saves your ass and the wealth you have saved for your family.

    I have two parents(in-laws) both died before 65, both saved and had substantial wealth, while them getting cancer cost a great deal, two things saved their wealth. They were retired UAW workers and had insurance and also medicare kicked in. The fact they both died within two months of their diagnosed and it was not drawn out. The wealth they had, would have been vapor without those programs.

    What we fail to look at is what happens if.... So why we all can sit while were younger and state what we would do, I learned the hard way about what can happen. My aunt and you would love each other, the difference is without SS and medicare she would be homeless;)

    NRA did not have to tell it members what to do, they're lemmings they don't need to be told..... Zing
     
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    I agree. Very well said.
     
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    Of course we like that check, it’s the money that the government took from my Paycheck for the last 60+ years finally coming back to me.

    Typical socialistic thought. “You’re too stupid to manage your money, let the government put it in a “lock box” and we will give it back when you are ready for it”

    What a joke.

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    Actually that's a very true statement, look at the numbers

    1 in 3 have zero retirement savings.

    56% have less than 10,000 saved.
    So after the 56% it gets better those that are left have $300K or more saved and 13% are in the top bracket.

    You're exactly right the money was taken because some are/were too stupid to save.
     
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    I understand that there are many people who would not be able to survive without that SS check. Part of the reason is because they have been made dependent on it. IMO the older generation should be cared for by their family, not the govt.


    Here is the problem though, when you have a single collector (the government) with their hand on everyone’s savings then they have the ability to rob everyone.

    that “lock box” money was squandered long ago and now we are sinking farther into debt because of it. Social Security is a pie in the sky idea that cannot work because the people in charge cannot be trusted to abuse that system. And will continue to abuse it.



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    Lemming here. But I can't take it anymore. Germ it's they're Not "their"
    I don't own any Yeti products because I'm smart enough not to throw my money away on over priced stuff. If I was ever tempted to buy any, I sure wouldn't now. The true lemmings though are ones who blindly trust their government to take care of them. I'm tired of people saying they are pro second amendment and don't understand why it was included in the Constitution.
     
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