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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Skywalker, Jun 12, 2014.

  1. Skywalker

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    No, I'm saying it's OK to blame the president making the decisions. When Bush was in office, plenty of blame was put at his feet. Yet Obama seems to be above reproach. That's my issue. The left and the media's constant attack on Bush's decisions, yet when Obama fails, somehow it's not his fault.
     
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    Buttombuck

    How did the saudis start the mess? I don't think the party comment was to you, I was simply stating another point without starting another one.
     
  3. Jake/PA

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    Correct. I caught myself throwing it all in together. My mistake.
     
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    Directly no......
     
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    You actually believe what is in bold?
     
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    chopayne Die Hard Bowhunter

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    you should really read your original post. You are outright blaming the president.
     
  7. tacklebox

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    This is valid
     
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    by that notion we were all involved. we're Involved with north Korea because we provide them aid and all the other countries. There really is no basis for the argument you're trying to present from what I can see
     
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    General James "Mad Dog" Mattis for president!


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  10. Hooker

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    Correct. This is exactly what happened. After 9/11 patriotism was at an all time high, we wanted to destroy basically the entire ME, everyone was all ready to fight anyone. Bush saw it as a perfect opportunity to start the war with Iraq. He took advantage of the atmosphere that 9/11 created.

    Sadaam probably needed to be taken out, but let's not pretend that Iraq was for some noble cause.
     
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    What argument am I trying to present?

    I am simply saying that the entire region is a mess.....
     
  12. Skywalker

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    Yes, and here's why. It was our opportunity to bring a tyrant to justice.

    Crimes of Saddam Hussein
     
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    That iraq wasn't Involved directly. Yes that's true, but so are tons of other Cou tries including us. That is not good reason to invade a country.
     
  14. tacklebox

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    EXACTLY! thanks Hook
     
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    I don't think there will ever be a good time to leave. Did we expect the training would all of a sudden turn their police and military into an actual police and military.

    Doesnt matter if we left earlier or left later on, it would eventually turn into what it has.
     
  16. Skywalker

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    I'm blaming the person in charge for not following through with the job. Similarly to when we didn't follow through with the job the first time we were in a war with Iraq. So yes, the job was not finished, people died for nothing if Al Qaeda takes control of Iraq.
     
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    you're straying far from your original argument. There are also tons of other dictators who have done crimes.
     
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    I never said that it was, please do not read further into my statements than what it says.
     
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    Also we destroyed AQ. Absolutely destroyed their networks and infrastructure. When we stopped focusing on Afghanistan, is when we allowed them to regroup and rebuild. Research skywalker.
     
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    You said Iraq was not involved directly. tell me what you meant.
     

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