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Yet another failure of this administration

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Skywalker, Jun 12, 2014.

  1. Skywalker

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    Many Americans lost their lives in the fight to bring stability to Iraq. Whether you feel like it was our place to be there or not, the facts are we were and many Americans paid the ultimate price to help bring freedom to other places in the world. We sit here today watching as Al Qaeda is posed to take Baghdad as they have already taken Mosul and Tikrit.
    Many people warned this administration that a withdraw of troops in 2011 would be a poor decisions, but hey Obama had an election to win. So, he gave the orders and withdrew the troops. Not because the job was done and we were confident that they could stand on their own, but because Obama decided to play politics instead of Commander-in-Chief.
    Yet another failure of this administration, and quite frankly a failure of the American people for not recognizing just how poor of a leader he is. I feel for everyone that lost a friend or family member to the war in Iraq because apparently their sacrifice was for not.
     
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    Amen brother.
     
  3. chopayne

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    I'm not quite sure bush or another Republican would have done it differently. Iraq was telling us to pull out and so were the American people. We can easily blame Obama but I honestly believe the same route would have been taken by any other president. If I recall correctly the Republicans during the elections were planning on pulling out.
     
  4. uncljohn

    uncljohn Weekend Warrior

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    Yes, blame someone for bringing american troops home and out of harm's way. Don't blame the person who put them in harm's way. Why are you concerned? Your party told us we would be welcomed with open arms. Your party said the war would be over in 6 months. Your party said the war would pay for itself with all the oil we'd get.
     
  5. Skywalker

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    Hey, as Truman put it. "The buck stops here!" Bush is blamed for everything that didn't go right, so it's time for Obama to begin shouldering the burden of failure. Politics has no business in the decision making on the battle field. You would think we would have learned our lesson from Vietnam.
     
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    Ya we should have done nothing...... maybe invited them over for a BBQ. sheesh

    We didn't choose war, they chose us.

    Finger pointing across party line gets no one anywhere, I would think you fellas are smart enough to know that.
     
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    Sorry to pick on you unclejohn. You are not the only one guilty of it for sure! This is exactly what is wrong with United States. "Your party" this..."Your party" that... A soon as we do away with all this party BS and realize we are all Americans and share the same interest this country will be a heck of a lot better off!

    Heckler for president!
     
  8. Germ

    Germ Legendary Woodsman

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    And yet your post is finger pointing, lol

    Their will never be peace in the Middle East. Never....

    So it really does not matter who is at the wheel, the region cannot be fixed by USA or anyone else.

    The people in the region need to want peace, and that's not going to happen.

    If there was not a sea of oil in Iraq nobody would care.
     
  9. tacklebox

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    how so?
     
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    Did Iraq really pull us into war? Thats not really how I remember it, and I voted for W.. I seem to remember that war came out of nowhere with little support from anyone.
     
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    this.
     
  12. Jake/PA

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    The finger pointing is childish dont you think?

    What did you want them to do after 9/11? There's no other way to take on terrorism.

    Iraq may have been a reach but the choice for war was right.
     
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    Your comment has nothing to do with the pullout. Either side would have done it, and right now you're saying it's OK to blame one guy because he was in office. That's dumb if either guy would have done it. You're just looking for someone to blame.
     
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    Sorry tackle not you, the original poster
     
  15. Skywalker

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    Your just making up Sh*t, and rewriting history. This has nothing to do with what party did what. It has to do with the fact that Americans died for a cause. To bring freedom to the oppressed citizens if Iraq. We knowing pulled troops out of Iraq when we knew far too well that Al Qaeda had not been broken. Bringing our boys home you say? Not really considering the surge of troops in Afghanistan at the same time. Remember Obama saying Iraq was the wrong war, but apparently Afghanistan is the right war???
     
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    Iraq wasn't involved in 9/11.
     
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    Actually no. that's Afghanistan and them harboring Osama bin laden. Iraq was a byproduct.

    Also like someone else mentioned, categorizing people into this party and that is immature and stupid. Got to grow up, I hold controversial views on both sides and it frustrates me to no end when someone categorize me into either category. it only shows one's stupidity and inability to reason.
     
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    skywalker. that was not why we entered iraq. we had to pull out of one theater and Iraq wanted us out, both parties knew it.
     
  19. tacklebox

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    Please tell me that you do not really believe that.
     
  20. buttonbuckmaster

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    I'm not taking party sides here. It just seemed that we as a country were rallying behind the troops to kill terrorists and all of a sudden, Iraq and WMD became the focus, instead of the Saudi's that actually started the mess.
     

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