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Ya'lls opinions on high fence hunting or "whitetail preserves"

Discussion in 'Whitetail Deer Hunting' started by Whitetail_Widowmaker, Jul 31, 2013.

  1. Dan

    Dan Senior Member

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    How so?
     
  2. Afflicted

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    Ok. Is the issue the high fence.
    The amount if game kept in the fence.
    Or genetically altered racks and sizes of them.

    We have a few high 4':) fence outfitters here for hogs and even thats rediculous but you and the kids go home with pork.


    I don't have a problem with a person owning many thousands of acres and trying keep game on the property to let them grow and get bigger. I think if I had that much land I'd be doing the same and I guess if some one else wanted to hunt there they could pay me to help offset the cost. Etc etc.

    I don't even own a rifle or muzzle loader so I think the fact that we're all bow hunters means we think a little differently about hunting in general. I feel rifle hunting with a big arse scope is not hunting or is to easy and so it kind of goes down that same road.

    Wasn't there an outfitter that let you shoot game by a remote control on your computer?
     
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    Not really hunting, but it has it's place. There are some people that might not have the same ability or opportunity to get out and hunt and if they want to drop 10 g's on a hunt so be it. Just don't mount it on your wall and act like it's some real trophy when you paid by the inch and picked which buck you wanted.

    I have participated in a "high fence" hog hunt and it was a good time. These were wild hogs that had been trapped and brought in. In fact there were several that were brought in while we were there and they released a couple of them during our hunt. So while it's not necessarily fair chase, it did give us an opportunity to hunt hogs, which we cannot do where we live.
     
  4. jvanhees

    jvanhees Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I think its a joke. IMO.

    The owner of scentblocker hunted a ranch in IA recently on TV. "Giant Bucks Everywhere!" :poke:
     
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    I think its great for some people who use it in the right way. What I mean is say someone who is physically unable to hunt by themselves or people who have zero time to hunt but still have the passion for whitetail. I wouldnt do one unless I had too
     
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    Not Hunting at all, ruins the sport in my opinion. With that being said to each is own, I dont have a problem with it if they want to spend the big bucks to harvest a freak deer and not put in a quarter of the effort most people do more power to them.
     
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    not my thing,,not considered hunting to most of us....but it does has its place, example: when a millionare decides to get his "nature fill" he calls up this place, puts his Toms on and goes and kills a buck bigger than we will ever see in the wild. it has its place, just not for us!
     
  8. Afflicted

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    Agreed and if a guy is a millionaire then he spends most of his time creating products or services that are needed or wanted so he may not have the hours or want to spend them scouting during the summer and then sitting in a tree stand every weekend during the season to wait for that one nice buck to come by. For the guys that can do it and have the patience you should feel fortunate.


    "If people gotta have it they must want it"
    Yogi Berra
     
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    License:
    Buy over the counter or entered into a lottery.
    Managed by:
    Department of Natural Resources


    Farming Deer in Illinois:

    Licenses: Pay the farmer.
    Managed by: The Department of Agriculture.

    Anyone who compares farming to hunting is delusional. The animals I hunt are born free and live wild their entire life. The animals behind a fence were once a pet that liked snickers bars and being petted. They have been put into a completely different environment only for the sake of the farmer making money and for the buyer to feel like he has penis for one day.

    It really turns my stomach. If I told you what I really thought the moderators would be tripping over themselves with locks the size of your screen.
     
  10. tfox

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    Kinda like cattle:D I like beef;)

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    Me too. White jacket & bolt gun to the head. No games.
     
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    purebowhunting Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Wouldn't partake, but have no opinion either way. I don't see how its ruining hunting like some say.
     
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    Not something I would do, but let me play devils advocate and ask - at what point is it enough acreage to make it ok to fence in? Eventually there is a natural barrier like a mountain or highway wall or something that blocks them in. If it's wrong to do at 200 acres but ok at 201 acres, how can there be a line even drawn between "right" and "wrong" for something like this? Again, I wouldn't partake but I am playing devil's advocate just to edge the debate along...
     
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    Not hunting in my opinion
     
  15. tfox

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    Isn't dead, dead?

    It's not hunting , no arguments there but it is harvesting food or racks. If your not ok with someone killing a commodity with a bow or gun, maybe you need to rethink your position on hunting.

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    About as sporting as fishing in a swimming pool.
     
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    Should not be legal to pin a wild animal period let alone make it a shooting gallery.
     
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    Where we disagree the most is I don’t feel wild animals are a commodity, I feel they are a natural resource.

    Actually, I don’t think dead is dead either. Saying I respect the wild animals I hunt is an understatement. In my opinion, there is a big difference between a deer dying in a car collision, behind a high fence, starving, or at the hands of a hunter, etc. A hunter will use the whole resource and try to replenish the resource and the environment of the resource. A buyer hunting a high fence wants the rack and the farmer wants the money. Maybe you don’t believe this scenario or disagree? Ask yourself, would the farmer have deer if he did not get paid and would the buyer be there if the farmer did not have big antlers?

    I would have to ask you sir if you believe wild animals are a commodity and dead is dead should you revisit your hunting values?
     
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    Not everyone hunts for the reason you stated, and yes charging somebody that is not a resident 400 or close to it in Illinois makes deer a commodity. You can barely throw a rock and not hit a outfitter where I live and I guarantee most of those people pay and consider hunting the same way your saying the people that go to one of these farms feels.

    As far as original question I could honestly care less about it, is it the same as walking out into the woods many on here do and harvesting a animal no but I'm not gonna get so worked up over it and show total disdain for someone who does. Would I do it, idk if i had disposable income in the thousands, maybe. While I enjoy the challenge of hunting it still is what it is when I shoot one.

    Spear yea to me there's a big difference in say 50 to 500 acres or more. While deer do have a large range if somebody fenced in couple thousand acres your not gonna really be holding them animals in. If that was the case the trailcam threads on here would be pretty empty with people only getting one year of pics from the same deer.
     
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    They aren't "wild" game.
    And I have no issue with a farmer making money off a legal resource. It's called capitalism.
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