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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Skywalker, Nov 24, 2013.

  1. Skywalker

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    Seriously, you have fumbled the ball 4 times, 3 recovered by the Donkeys. Leading to a 17-0 deficit early in the second quarter. Why don't you just give it away. I hate the Patriots, they win when I want them to lose and the lose when I want them to win. Can't you just cooperate and beat the Donkeys like you are supposed to.
     
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    31 unanswered points against Manning. I'd love to have to be a fly in the wall in the Patriots locker room at half time.


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    Win or lose, Brady once again proves he is better than Manning.
     
  4. Skywalker

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    Well, that was unbelievable!!!!!!!

    For one day, I love you Tom Brady!
     
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    Ya Bill said stop F@*^*^* fumbling!!!!! Ha ha
     
  6. NY Bowhunter

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    Damn.. I went to sleep at 24-0 disappointed in the great Sunday Night matchup I wanted to watch lol. A little surprised when I woke up today. WTH??
     
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    Brady > Manning
     
  8. Skywalker

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    I guess this is just another example of Manning playing poorly in cold weather. They scored 24 points in the first half and Manning actually have very little to do with them getting the lead and he basically did nothing until that last drive of regulation to go down and score a TD to tie it up. Brady is a better late season/cold weather QB than Manning without a doubt.
     
  9. Tony

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    Listen to me....everyone mentions how KC hasn't beaten anyone ....and they haven't

    DENVER has not beaten anyone except KC who hasn't beaten anyone!!!

    Both of these teams will be gone after their first playoff game....AND Brady has always been, will always be better than Manning (all around) and that pains me to say that as I am a Bills fan and HATE the Patriots
     
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    Cut him some slack PT ... it was chilly out there. :violin:
     
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    Manning > Brady

    This isn't a debate.
     
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    10-4 head to head in favor of Brady. You're correct it's not debatable
     
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    Because the games are Manning vs Brady?

    This isn't boxing or tennis.
     
  14. Skywalker

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    I also hate the Patriots, but my hate for the Patriots is trumped my my loathing hatred of the Denver Bronco's.
     
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    I don't see how you could argue that all around Brady is better... look at Manning's stats when he plays below 32 degrees.... and then look at Brady's....

    And then you have the choke factor....
     
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    I strongly do not like either player...so I feel I come with no bias feelings towards one or the other and as much as I despise the Patriots as a whole, Brady is better than Manning without hesitation on my part. Yes, Manning could possibly go down as the greatest regular season QB, but if so not terribly better than Brady...but Brady pulls away and separates pretty substantially from Manning in numerous categories:

    -Head to head. Yes it isn't boxing or a one-on-one type sport but every time they've faced each other both had above average teams and even occurred in the playoffs numerous times. Manning routinely fell on his face in those games, Brady rarely did anything to increase the chances his team would lose...something Manning could never say save for maybe a game or two in the 4 games of the 14 they've played each other.

    -Manning has had better receivers. Yes, I'll say it but after admitting neither have had stellar receiving corps with 3 or 4 legit targets. That said though Manning had HOF Harrison and Wayne in his prime was better in my opinion. He had above average TEs and a few other good but not great receivers. Brady arguably in my opinion receiver wise has had one HOF and that was Moss, now Welker will probably make it, but I feel you give Welker an above average QB he does the exact same thing, but that's what Brady did, he made WRs other teams deemed old, slow, inserviceable and would keep on rolling in the Ws year after year. Now Gronk is a beast yes, but dude's health must be factored in. Just look at some of the years when Brady and the Patriots would re-load at receiver/TE with seemingly no-names and ****** if they wouldn't be in the Super Bowl or AFC championship yet again.

    -Clutch performance. Manning fails in the big games, even the most staunch Manning supporter can't argue this one. Playoffs are not Manning's friend, neither is the big games in the regular season for that matter. Not too mention if the weather gets "scary" his arm seems to tuck it's head in it's shell like a turtle till the game is over. Brady, he just wins...and I hate that, but admit it.

    -Intelligence, Brady does what Manning does minus all the sign language and arm flapping like he's mimicing the flying monkeys from Wizard of Oz.


    *Also I look at it this way. If my Packers had to face one or the other in a big game, whether regular season or Super Bowl, I'd pick Manning every single time. I want nothing to do with Brady when the game is crucial...that is enough for me to pick Brady over Manning without the other things I listed.

    (obviously this is my opinion, I feel outside the opinion on receiving corps the other facts stand alone without much opinion interjecting...take it for what you may.)
     
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    One played in a dome most games...the other outside more, obviously the more you play outside the more chance to lose. Manning is one of the greats, but so is Brady and in my opinion stats, facts and intangibles judged by my opinion point to him being above Manning.
     
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    Stats don't lie.

    Who has played better in the games?
     
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    In the head to head match ups, who has played better?
     

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