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Would this be insane?

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by Vabowman, Aug 1, 2009.

  1. michaelp

    michaelp Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Keeping both bows souds like the best plan of all.
     
  2. Vabowman

    Vabowman Grizzled Veteran

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    if I can afford it...
     
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    That sounds like a great idea, like you said, if you can afford it. Do you currently have a back up?
     
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    I have shot one pin sighted in at 25 yards a couple times for bow season. I will probably shoot 2 pins this year. 25 and 35.

    I actually think this can make one a more competent shooter as you learn your bows limitations.

    You guys going to tell me that I can't be precise shooting this set up? For hardly ever practicing and only shooting a half dozen shoots a year.... I think I do OK.
     
  5. buckeye

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    You can shoot with about 1.5" for margin of error from 5 yards out to 28 yards using a 25 yard pin with no compensation at 290FPS.

    IMO you will never see1.5" in a hunting sceranio.

    To each their own :cool:
     
  6. buckeye

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    I never said it could shoot flat... I 100% understand the relation between line of sight and the arc of the arrows path.
     
  7. Vabowman

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    I think Buckeye understands what Im saying...I understand Jeff and Rob and I know that to be pin point accurate, down to the 1/4 " i would need more than one pin....but for my hunting purposes, within the 1 " range is perfect for me...all is good though, I still shoot some 3D shoots and I don't really shoot them to win or anything, my goal is to put the arrow into the kill zone of every animal...
     
  8. Finch

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    Landon...I'm going to start shooting one pin this year also. I just purchased a Vital Bow Gear one pin slider sight. I'm going to probably set the first marker for 25 yards and adjust accordingly. The beauty with this sight is you can set different markers for different yardages. I can probably get it accurately sighted for...I dunno...80 yards...maybe more. Of course, no deer will be shot at that distance but I do like to play out that far. :) I haven't had a lot of time to play with it yet but I hear it works well. WKP Todd also uses one and I think you can see it in his last video.

    Granted, you'll have to remember to move the slider if you want to shoot longer distances but I probably won't be taking any shots (40 yards) that far, we'll see though. Its a really neat concept and I'm looking forward to using it this fall. Looking at one pin removes all possibility of using the wrong pin. Also, my sight picture is clearer. I'm still a bit worried with using one pin but I'll be in good shape come fall.
     
  9. Vabowman

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    Finch I used that type of sight for the last 10 yrs but I never moved it! So I went to a fixed single pin...but I may go back to that type...it makes sense..
     
  10. ldawg

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    VA, I get it. Good luck with the new bow. Have fun.
     
  11. Dubbya

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    Va, I don't know ANYONE that has gotten rid of an Allegiance and not regretted it. Take a look on AT and see how many people wish they had their alley back or how many people are selling their new bow to buy another allegiance. Just check it out before you do it :D
     
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    As for the pin discussion, I like my pins... all of them. 20, 30, 40, 50... etc. Under the right conditions, I'll shoot a deer at 50 and I want a pin to put in the spot I want my arrow to hit.
     
  13. Finch

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    Gotcha. :)
     
  14. Buck Magnet

    Buck Magnet Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Dustin... I got rid of my Ally and picked up an Old Glory without ever regretting it. I loved my Ally, but my Old Glory was just so much more stable and just a pleasure to shoot... my Old Glory is the one bow that I have owned that I may kick myself for getting rid of!
     
  15. michaelp

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    My only fear of one pin would be a deer slowly walking at 35 yards. I feel I can make that shot all day with my current set up...20, 30, 40 and 50 yard pins, but a single pin set at 25 yards would require ME to hold high and at the same time making sure I am over the vitals, avoiding limbs...etc. My skill level will not allow all of that.
     
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    So theoretically, you don't need to judge distances under 28 yards?? I want one of those bows.
     
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    no, I don't judge any distances under 28 yds...when i shoot the 3d with my buds, they always say what did ya shoot it for ?? 23 yds etc...i say No , I just point the pin on it and shot...shots that are 30 yds or more I just have to be correct in my judgement or I'll miss badly, it's kind of like someone said earlier, you really get to know your bow...I don't think some people are getting what Im saying...if your bow is shooting fast enough, you can use less pins...this is common knowledge, that is one of the upsides to shooting a faster bow.... smaller pin gaps and/or less pins... are you guys telling me that for a bow that shoot 300 fps that you need a 20 yd and a 25 yd and 30 yd pin?? No you don't...
     
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    and I will keep my Ally and get the BI for a back up!
     
  19. Gr8atta2d

    Gr8atta2d Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I think everyone except a complete nimrod, get's what your saying. Most of us agree it "can" be done.

    You are happy with where you are at, and how your shooting, that confidence is all you need.

    Another analogy is: All big league pitchers can throw a ball over the middle of the plate, so why are some better than others? Big bucks and big bats..and accurate arrows...it's all about location!
     
  20. Vabowman

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    well this thing got way off topic fast, whatever you call what I do, it doesn't matter, I know what I need to do to make it work for me, it has for a long time now...I can tell you this, the last competition I shot, I hit a 12 ring at 16 yds and then the next target I hit another 12 ring at 26 yds and never did anything different that I could tell...when you guys shoot a deer, are you thinking about being as accurate as you are in a 3d shoot? Im serious here, not a smart ass... I focus when I shoot a deer, but Im not to the point where Im splitting hairs...I wish I was that good, but Im not. I practice a lot and Im surely accurate as a hunter and that's what concerns me...I could care less if I ever win a 3d shoot...I shoot them with my hunting rig for the practice..
     

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