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Wisconsin leads nation in trophy whitetail bucks

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  1. BJE80

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    I have to admit I am a little bit surprised by this.

    http://dnr.wi.gov/news/DNRNews_Lookup.asp?id=313#art1

    [h=2]Wisconsin leads nation in trophy whitetail bucks[/h] MADISON -- The number of trophy bucks taken in Wisconsin has risen by 857 percent in 30 years, with a record-breaking 383 entries during the five years ending in 2010, according to historical records kept by the venerable Boone and Crockett Club.
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    Wisconsin Buck & Bear Club measurer Marlin Laidlaw of Marshfield with a large buck he shot a few years ago. While impressive, it falls short of record book standards.



    That makes Wisconsin the number one state or Canadian province in North America for trophy whitetail production, muscling up from its earlier position of third.


    The records show the number of trophy white-tailed deer in North America shot up by 400 percent during the past 30 years. During the period from 1980 to 1985, North American hunters entered 617 trophy whitetails, every one of those antlers scored by a certified Boone and Crocket “measurer,” a designation that can take years to earn.


    For the period 2005-2010, that number jumped to 3,090 trophy deer, dramatic evidence that North America’s whitetail deer herd has grown by leaps and bounds.
    One long-time, certified measurer is Marlin Laidlaw of the Wisconsin Buck & Bear Club, also a member of the Wisconsin Conservation Congress big game committee. Laidlaw says Wisconsin’s number one ranking is about a lot more than numbers.


    Laidlaw said while there is good deer range throughout the state, there are more unofficial refuges now – private lands where deer are not hunted or are hunted lightly – where bucks have a chance to grow older.
    “Plus, you have people who just don’t care to shoot small bucks anymore,” Laidlaw said.
    The last half century has seen a remarkable shift in hunter attitudes, Laidlaw said. He recalls the story of the third largest buck ever shot in Wisconsin, taken by Joe Haske in Wood County in 1945.
    Haske was surprised when a big buck flushed right in front of him. He instinctively fired, hitting the deer in the rear, an unfortunate shot placement from the standpoint of a butcher.
    As Haske’s son, Roger, told the story, other hunters gathered to admire the magnificent antlers. Even then, when hunters didn’t think much in terms of trophies, they recognized there was something special about this deer.


    “But I remember my dad just being so mad about all the meat he’d ruined,” the younger Haske told Laidlaw. “When the others remarked on the antlers, he shot back, ‘You can’t eat the horns.’”
    Back then, and even into the 1980s, Laidlaw said, hunters were primarily interested in trading their buck tag for a freezer full of venison. Then as now, a young deer became a legal buck, for hunting purposes, when its fork horns reached a length of just 3 inches.


    “About 85 percent of the harvest was legal bucks,” Laidlaw said, “so there wasn’t much carry over. Meat was meat. If it had 3-inch horns, it was dead.”


    But it’s a fact that big bucks excite hunters; research has shown that just seeing a big buck can cause a hunter’s heart rates to skyrocket. That’s one reason big game hunter Teddy Roosevelt founded the Boone and Crockett Club in 1887 and why he and others developed a system in 1906 for scoring trophy game animals – whether deer, elk, bighorn sheep, caribou, antelope or bear.


    “He (Roosevelt) felt they deserved recognition for what they had accomplished in the wild,” Laidlaw said. “We don’t measure people. We measure their trophies.”


    In the case of deer, antlers are scored with a series of precise measurements to include the circumference of the beams at four locations on each side, the length of each of the tines reaching skyward and the widest inside spread between the upward curving beams. Measuring the separate class of “non-typical” antlers is more complex.


    In the 1960s, there were only a handful of Boone and Crockett measurers in Wisconsin. One of them was Pete Haupt, a colorful hunting guide in Hayward who believed Wisconsin wasn’t getting recognition for its trophy hunting opportunities. In 1965 he and others – including Bob Hults, Arnie Krueger and Gerald Younk – founded the Wisconsin Buck and Bear Club with the mission of training measurers and “keeping Wisconsin No.1 in the record books.”
    In 1961, the national Pope and Young Club was formed to recognize trophies taken by bow hunters.
    Both national clubs are ardent supporters of fair chase ethics and sound conservation practices as is the Wisconsin club.


    In 1965, Wisconsin had five deer listed in the Boone and Crocket record book. There are now more than 300. There are more than 1,500 Wisconsin entries in the Pope and Young book and more than 5,000 deer have qualified for Wisconsin state records maintained by the Wisconsin Buck & Bear Club, which was sanctioned by the Wisconsin Legislature in 1996 as the as the state's official big game records keepers. The minimum standard for state trophy deer is marginally less stringent for gun hunting, 150 points vs. 170 points for the Boone and Crocket records.


    Just as the number of certified trophy scorers has grown in Wisconsin, Laidlaw said, so has the information available to hunters. In the 1960s they were lucky to find a single book on deer hunting in a school library. Those same libraries are now well stocked, and the Internet – along with the emergence of cell phones, global positioning devices and motion-activated trail cameras – has changed the game completely.
    “I’m wondering if there is a deer in Wisconsin that hasn’t been photographed,” Laidlaw said.
    In recent decades, Laidlaw said, the “quality deer” movement emerged with landowners banding together and establishing hunting guidelines under which young bucks were more likely to survive. “Let ‘em go, let ‘em grow” has become a mantra among some hunters, even being adopted as a trademarked slogan by the Wisconsin Bear & Buck Club.


    Not everything is rosy, Laidlaw said. He and others, while often fond of their local deer biologists, have been critical of state Department of Natural Resources deer management policies. A common complaint is that the DNR has not found a way to manage for quality deer hunting on public lands where hunters with little or no access to private property congregate with little incentive to “let ‘em go.”
    Laidlaw said many hunters believe predator populations, primarily wolf and bear, have been allowed to grow too large. A great deal of research and public debate is being directed at these issues.
    But in the meantime, Laidlaw and other measurers with the Wisconsin Buck and Bear Club draw crowds when they set up at small town fairs and big city deer shows. At each of these events, dozens and sometimes hundreds of people bring in their deer mounts – or their grandparent’s deer mounts – to be officially scored, and they bring their stories with them, Laidlaw said.
    While the Boone and Crockett Club is celebrating the resurgence of the North American deer herd and the exponential growth in trophy deer, the 150 or so highly trained measurers with the Wisconsin Buck and Bear Club can celebrate the unrivaled success of their public outreach efforts.
    When it comes to keeping Wisconsin number one for trophy deer, they can justifiably claim “mission accomplished.”


    FOR MORE INFORMATION CONTACT: Ed Culhane, DNR west central region public affairs manager, 715-781-1683.
    The Boone and Crockett state-by-state ranking of trophy deer entries can be found on the organization's website: www.boone-crockett.org/news/featured_story.asp?area=news&ID=125.





     
  2. mitchp21

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    Thats an awesome article! Glad to see a lot more people practicing QDMA! I know its been helping around my area!
     
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    This should be of no surprise. Wisconsin has always led In this category and will continue to do so.
     
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    I find it amusing that they're talking about WI record book entries and use a dude's picture of a buck that he most likely shot in Saskatchewan. (you can tell by the white jacket he's wearing)
     
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    Dan, you posted the same thing I was going to!!

    What is also amazing is that there are numerous bucks that have not been entered into any "books". I am sure this is the case in every single state that not everyone takes the time and spends the $$$ to enter their "trophy" just so it is in a book. Just in my little hunting group (5 people) and other family/friends (8 more hunters) I know of 11 P&Y quality bucks that were not entered, but harvested in WI and 1 B&C a friend shot a few years back in SE WI that again was not entered.
     
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    I guess I'm surprised since Iowa, Illinois, Ohio seem to have a better reputation. I never saw any hard facts comparing the states.
     
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    Not as many hunters and lower deer pops.
     
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    I have to admit, Wisconsin has been great to many of us. One thing I will add, and this is true no matter where you go...but many people don't ever enter their deer into the books. I have been all over the midwest and maybe I was just in the right areas, but there are very big deer everywhere. Congrats to my home state, but lookout for Iowa, Illinois, Kansas, among others. It may surprise us that if you calculate the numbers by hunter population and not by total numbers, the data may change...
     
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    The "Good Old Days" are right now!
     
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    Actually, Wisconsin has not always led in this category.

    If I'm not mistaken, there was a period of time where Mn. led Wi in record book deer.
     
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    I'm still waiting for the day that Louisiana makes it into these "books" everyone's talking about.
     
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    Good ole' Hoosier state staying pretty steady...high enough to be attractive, low enough to keep a low profile :D
     
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    Here's a link Greg to a big write up I did on another hunting forum. http://www.thehuntingbeast.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11632


    In the last 20 years Wisconsin has blown everyone away. Compared to Minnesota In this time period (1991 to 2010) they've entered almost 4 times as many. Prior to this Mn was up there but I'm not sure If they've ever been ahead of Wisconsin. Michigan at one time was up there as well.
     
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    Are you talking B&C or P&Y? They are talking B&C, but I know Wi has led for a long time in P&Y.
     
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    Here, I found this........

    From this article.http://www.americanhunter.org/articles/where-bc-bucks-are-coming-from/ I was thinking further back.....'70's and '80's.
     
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    I'd like to know where Ohio is on the list, I know we have increased by I believe it is 400% in trophy bucks in I think ten years or something like that
     
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    Here's some P&Y stats, not B&C.

    1. Wisconsin
    1991 to 1992- 395
    1993 to 1994- 501
    1995 to 1996- 628
    1997 to 1998- 753
    1999 to 2000- 961
    2001 to 2002- 855
    2003 to 2004- 957
    2005 to 2006- 1002
    2007 to 2008- 994
    2009 to 2010- 1088


    9136 Typicals entered all time, 509 NT's entered all time.





    2. Illinois
    1991 to 1992- 403
    1993 to 1994- 422
    1995 to 1996- 541
    1997 to 1998- 501
    1999 to 2000- 528
    2001 to 2002- 596
    2003 to 2004- 706
    2005 to 2006- 674
    2007 to 2008- 603
    2009 to 2010- 499


    6234 Typicals entered all time, 721 NT's entered all time.






    3. Iowa
    1991 to 1992- 258
    1993 to 1994- 422
    1995 to 1996- 541
    1997 to 1998- 365
    1999 to 2000- 312
    2001 to 2002- 324
    2003 to 2004- 428
    2005 to 2006- 411
    2007 to 2008- 408
    2009 to 2010- 317


    3748 Typicals entered all time, 456 NT's entered all time.






    4. Ohio
    1991 to 1992- 141
    1993 to 1994- 160
    1995 to 1996- 208
    1997 to 1998- 211
    1999 to 2000- 241
    2001 to 2002- 236
    2003 to 2004- 334
    2005 to 2006- 309
    2007 to 2008- 319
    2009 to 2010- 320


    2904 Typicals entered all time, 243 NT's entered all time.






    5. Minnesota
    1991 to 1992- 154
    1993 to 1994- 165
    1995 to 1996- 174
    1997 to 1998- 176
    1999 to 2000- 131
    2001 to 2002- 160
    2003 to 2004- 188
    2005 to 2006- 201
    2007 to 2008- 197
    2009 to 2010- 196


    2342 Typicals entered all time, 186 NT's entered all time.






    6. Kansas
    1991 to 1992- 104
    1993 to 1994- 97
    1995 to 1996- 138
    1997 to 1998- 148
    1999 to 2000- 141
    2001 to 2002- 180
    2003 to 2004- 230
    2005 to 2006- 218
    2007 to 2008- 235
    2009 to 2010- 319


    2309 Typicals entered all time, 364 NT's entered all time.






    7. Indiana
    1991 to 1992- 81
    1993 to 1994- 101
    1995 to 1996- 99
    1997 to 1998- 108
    1999 to 2000- 125
    2001 to 2002- 178
    2003 to 2004- 238
    2005 to 2006- 294
    2007 to 2008- 339
    2009 to 2010- 325


    2118 Typicals entered all time, 167 NT's entered all time.






    8. Missouri
    1991 to 1992- 107
    1993 to 1994- 84
    1995 to 1996- 135
    1997 to 1998- 135
    1999 to 2000- 141
    2001 to 2002- 135
    2003 to 2004- 245
    2005 to 2006- 190
    2007 to 2008- 183
    2009 to 2010- 221


    1768 Typicals entered all time, 161 NT's entered all time.






    9. Michigan
    1991 to 1992- 88
    1993 to 1994- 93
    1995 to 1996- 144
    1997 to 1998- 151
    1999 to 2000- 121
    2001 to 2002- 92
    2003 to 2004- 114
    2005 to 2006- 158
    2007 to 2008- 156
    2009 to 2010- 135


    1514 Typicals entered all time, 88 NT's entered all time.






    10. Texas
    1991 to 1992- 88
    1993 to 1994- 111
    1995 to 1996- 145
    1997 to 1998- 147
    1999 to 2000- 149
    2001 to 2002- 107
    2003 to 2004- 156
    2005 to 2006- 174
    2007 to 2008- 169
    2009 to 2010- 156


    1507 Typicals entered all time, 84 NT's entered all time.






    11. Pennsylvania
    1991 to 1992- 43
    1993 to 1994- 53
    1995 to 1996- 89
    1997 to 1998- 102
    1999 to 2000- 91
    2001 to 2002- 117
    2003 to 2004- 162
    2005 to 2006- 167
    2007 to 2008- 161
    2009 to 2010- 207


    1279 Typicals entered all time, 54 NT's entered all time.






    12. New York
    1991 to 1992- 55
    1993 to 1994- 62
    1995 to 1996- 90
    1997 to 1998- 100
    1999 to 2000- 136
    2001 to 2002- 161
    2003 to 2004- 152
    2005 to 2006- 101
    2007 to 2008- 127
    2009 to 2010- 106


    1229 Typicals entered all time, 50 NT's entered all time.






    13. Kentucky
    1991 to 1992- 52
    1993 to 1994- 65
    1995 to 1996- 67
    1997 to 1998- 82
    1999 to 2000- 66
    2001 to 2002- 74
    2003 to 2004- 99
    2005 to 2006- 131
    2007 to 2008- 125
    2009 to 2010- 126


    1011 Typicals entered all time, 86 NT's entered all time.








    The top 16 states the last 10 years for entries are-


    1. Wisconsin- 6215
    2. Illinois- 4113
    3. Iowa- 2517
    4. Ohio- 1921
    5. Indiana- 1631
    6. Kansas- 1558
    7. Missouri- 1238
    8. Minnesota- 1158
    9. Texas- 974
    10. Pennsylvania- 950
    11. Michigan- 830
    12. New York- 818
    13. Kentucky- 683
    14. Nebraska- 596
    15. ND- 589
    16. SD- 474
     
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    Wow thanks schultzy for the info, I'll take top 4 and as long as we are way ahead of Michigan I'm happy
     

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