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Wisconsin DNR wants to kill all the freakin deer!

Discussion in 'Whitetail Deer Hunting' started by Bukmastr, Oct 10, 2010.

  1. Bukmastr

    Bukmastr Weekend Warrior

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    The Wisconsin DNR snuck this one thru... A new approved 3 month spring no limit deer season...

     
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    I'll bet that the internet will inform more people of this change than anything else. Just saying that the more people that air this, will just inform more hunters that were unaware of this open season. I'd wager that there will be a slaughter in Jan.
    I wonder how this will apply to outta staters?
     
  3. headstrong

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    wow. wis. dnr is trying to destroy our deer population once again. with bringing the wolves back to the state, earn a buck, and antlerless only hunts. now this!! they are out of there minds. the funny thing is theres no stopping them. they can do whatever they want. they dont listen to a word the public says. i real hope we get a governor who will going to fire these a-holes
     
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    WOW! :argue:It would be interesting to see the harvest numbers for that time period.:bash: wisconsin deer population is already on the decline. Maybe now the DEER will be on the endangered list.:rant: NOT FUNNY!!!!!:p
     
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    The DNR is pathetic. If you do shoot a doe your going to be killing a fawn that is formed and growing. I don't know about any of you but where I hunt in Sauk County we have amish all around us and they will literally shoot every deer they see. Normally I feel bad for someone who gets fired from there job but if anyone from the DNR got fired I would celebrate it.
     
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    go google chronic wasting disease.
    this isnt them wanting to kill all the deer, this is a knee jerk reaction to try to save all the dear in the northern/midwestern United states.
     
  7. gunther89

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    Your telling me that when less the 1% of the deer they test have CWD, they should go and kill every deer in this zone because they want to save all the deer in the northern/mid western states? When I look at many places in the mid west and see 30-50 or more out in 1 field that population is to high.

    What the DNR is trying to do is ruin a tradition that has been going on for over 100 years and if they keep it up there won't be any deer left. I'll take my chances of a deer testing positive when less then 1% have CWD.
     
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    It has been the plan (documented) to eradicate all deer from the CWD for about 10 years now. This is not anything new. Right or wrong it is their plan and they have stated it from the beginning. .
     
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    its more about stopping its spread. they dont care bout u eating a deer with it, they care about it spreading. Deer can ALWAYS be reintroduced. there is plenty of them. this isnt something new, its been going on since the mid 70's....
     
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    I live in Wisconsin.......There is nothing saying hunters have to go hunting during this January to March hunting season or any other hunting season for that matter. There is also nothing stating the hunters need to take more deer than required, 1 doe to earn a buck for archery and 1 doe to EAB for the firearm season if the EAB tag filled during the archery season was used. So that being said who really is to blame for decimating the deer herd certain areas of Wisconsin.

    I hunt in an area which includes nearly 3000 acres where the landowners take only what we can eat. We see plenty of deer, including photoes of some very big bucks this year. While I do not always believe what the gov't says I also know that we don't have to do everything they say either. That includes managing the deer herd the way the WDNR wants in the CWD zone.
     
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    great post
     
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    The only applies to CWD areas, which is a good thing. It looks like the WDNR is trying to get ride of that disease, and improve the Wisconsin deer herds health
     
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    I am all for getting rid of CWD. But how do they know its only in the southern half of the state?!?! If its out in the western part of the U.S., How do they know its not in between?!?! They dont. They cant possibly test every deer out there. Granted the southern part of the state may have a higher percentage but how can they know that its not in the northern?? And for the anterless deer hunts, they are just ridiculous, I hunt zones 64, 63A,62B that have these hunts and the majority of they land owners I have talked to say the buck to doe ratio is around 1 to 1. Some spots of the zones are a lil higher (does) but not by much. But yet the Dnr continues to offer anterless hunts in these areas. Granted, everyone has the choice to participate or not in these hunts. I just wish they would leave it up to the land owners to manage the deer since they are the ones living there and spending more time on particular piece of land. Not just doing a day survey and then going to the next spot. I believe in some government control over game and fish, but sometimes they need a limit to their power.
     
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    i dont want to beat you up on this but dude what kind of of a quote is this. how about your dnr wipe out half your herd and see how hunters like it. how long should we wait until the herd come back? 10 15 20 years? for alls we know is the cwd has been in deer since the beginning of time. why should we kill every deer for the couple who have it? an the fact is you will never be able to get rid of cwd because there is no way to know if a deer has it until they start showing signs of it. before some of you out of staters comment on things you should read up on what the wdnr has been doing to our deer herd. deer numbers are at a record low from over hunting. you can say you dont have to go on these hunts all you want but the fact is there are a lot of people who will because the dnr has giving them the opportunity. so as long as they keep putting out these BS hunts, earn-a-bucks, and doe only hunts this state will suffer. and for those of you out there who still think this is ok. me and 4 buddies went gun hunting last year in central WI and not one of us seen A deer and were supposed to be a hunting state...lol please keep doing what the liberals and anti-hunting groups want you to do. over hunt deer so in the future there wont be a hunting season for the lack of deer population in WI. btw for those of you who dont know the wdnr are working with anti-hunting groups.
     
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    Great post headstrong!!
    I looked up the percent of total deer that tested positive for CWD over the course of 8 years and it came to .85%! Is it really something to worry about. I hunt in 54BCWD and our buck to doe ratio is 2:1 in favor of bucks! I feel guilty shooting a doe anymore just because the herd can't take it but I need to in order to get my buck tag. My neighbors are dumb amish and between 2 of them have 11 buck tags! I'm glad you have 3000 acres of land between all your neighbors that let deer go and all the crap but until they stop handing out free doe tags and having antlerless hunts and EAB, the southern half of the state is going to keep suffering.
     
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    We have been having problems in West Virginia with CWD. It can become a real problem.
     
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    I hunt up west of Minocqua, and you should be thankful you even see deer compared to the wasteland that is zone 29B.
     
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    As many of you know, within the last year or so the state of WI determined that the DNR was failing terribly at controlling this issue, and requested a new CWD managment plan.

    Here is a link to the new WI CWD plan: http://dnr.wi.gov/org/land/wildlife/whealth/issues/cwd/doc/CWD_15plan.pdf

    I suggest that before everyone makes outlandish claims about the DNR wanting to "kill all the freakin deer" in Wisconsin, you read it cover to cover and decide for yourself if you agree with it's objectives.

    It seems to me that they understand that this is not going to be a popular managment strategy in the short term, but that in the long term it will provide a more healthy and stable deer population. All I know is that people travel from all over the world and pay big bucks to hunt big bucks in Buffalo County. Would that still be the case if Buffalo cty carried the stigma of being CWD infected? More importantly, would they still be able to grow big bucks of the same caliber if 12% the adult male deer population was infected as is case currently the western core CWD management zone?
     
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    wow a first time poster jumping in a wisconsin dnr thread. seems kind of weird. maybe trying to stop the bad press? also trying to use buffalo county against us? also weird the number is now 12 deer out of 100 have cwd. cough... cough... maybe when i have an hour to was ill read this NEW article published by the same people who have mismanaged the deer herd
    :hijacked::busted:
     
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    I guess that's pretty much the answer I expected, and I think your reply pretty much proves my point. If you're unwilling to look at the issue objectively and from multiple standpoints, than you're never going to fully understand the reasoning behind it.

    I'm not sure how I'm using Buffalo County against us. (I include myself because as previously mention I still hunt in the heart of the CWD zone.) The reason I made that comparison is because the annual revenue generated in WI from hunting related retail sales, hospiitality, and so on factored in to the DNR's decision making process. In that they want to preserve it for the long term by not letting the disease take over the entire state population.

    Interestingly enough, the number of infected animals in the CWD zone is much higher than the numbers that were being thrown out earlier on this thread. Those numbers were most likely the overall percentages statewide.

    I do think it's funny that you decided to label me a thread hijacker. It wasn't because I went off topic...so it must have been because I disagreed with you?
     

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