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Why are so many young people against marriage?

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  1. wahoohunter

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    You don't believe in evolution, PT?
     
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    Tony, I have much respect for you and your beliefs but I am calling BS on this. The inability to explain something to everyone's satisfaction does not make something true.
     
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    Butting in... but wouldn't that statement work both ways?
     
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    Yes, it does.

    I have said it before and will say it again.

    Science cannot prove god does not exist any more than faith can prove god does exist.
    Science cannot prove god exists any more than faith can prove god does not exist.
     
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    Okay, agreed... So all our emotive energies, what we think, believe or feel can lead us astray?
     
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    Or not lead us astray. But what is astray? For you astray might be one thing but for me it may not be. What is astray would seem to depend on what you think or believe or feel and that can be different for every individual.
     
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    This ^
     
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    Science has proven that this makes me happy. I dont see just 1 female there. One day, maybe ill mature and find ONE that will...but until then, marriage would be pretty irresponsible.

    :evilgrin:
     
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    Good answer. Maybe astray would be away from one's preconceptions, whatever they may be, which brings us back to the original post. Maybe marriage has become "obsolete" for many because we all have preconceptions and our "partners" whatever that means, also have preconceptions and they don't begin building a common vision about those things until after the wedding has occurred. So what happens when a couple doesn't discover their incompatabilities until after the wedding?

    There are three options as someone alluded to: 1. Avoid dealing with the incompatabilities and become/remain miserable. 2. Get stuck in a cycle of trying again and again with someone else and see the institution itself as flawed instead of addressing the real problem that they are basing their marriages on what they think, feel or believe. 3. Learn to work through and resolve issues based on a common concept that both partners can accept, agree to and build on.

    I personally think God's way wins but I would ask the question, of the three, which has the greatest chance of producing responsible adult children?
     
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    There's always hope.
     
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    I would put my money on number 3 for best odds, but I'm confused why you pretexed the question with god's way?
     
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    Responsible adults have the greatest chance of producing responsible adult children. There are plenty of responsible adults that may be single parents due to spousal death (especially during wartimes) or other reasons that go on to raise responsible adult children. There are plenty of responsible adults that decide the best solution to their marital problems are a dissolution of the marriage and they go on to raise responsible adult children.

    I think the greatest chance of producing responsible adult children occurs when responsible adult(s) are having the children.
     
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    And as long as those children aren't being molested by a priest. That could really screw a kid up...if something like that were to ever happen.
     
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    I just believe it was His idea from the very beginning. Its a great model that works very well, regardless of who came up with it, I guess, but He at least put the first copyright on it in Eden.

    Genesis 2:18
    And the LORD God said, “It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him.”
    Genesis 2:22
    Then the rib which the LORD God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man.
    Genesis 2:23
    And Adam said: “This is now bone of my bones And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Because she was taken out of Man.”
    Genesis 2:24
    Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
    Genesis 2:25
    And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
     
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    Responsible? Do we need a definition?

    People who learn to work through and resolve issues based on a common concept that both partners(everyone involved) can accept, agree to and build on.
     
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    Helper? Comparable? Yeah that worked out real well.

    Fail. I'm not mad at god, as we all make mistakes. Perhaps he can give it another shot at making a helpful, comparable woman. I assume this would help the divorce rate.

    I get what your saying MM, but I feel like you are saying you need god in order to accomplish that?
     
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    You are absolutely correct and there are plenty of wolves in sheeps clothing, or wearing coaches whistles, or teaching school etc... That's why parents need to have well communicated common goals, because guess what the number one predictor of a child falling into the hands of such a person, or a prison or a gang is?

    Try a broken home.
     
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    Well dang, I guess this war is going to create a lot of gangsters then.
     
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    And take away a lot of scholarships from good white kids.
     
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    Science is built around disproving things, not proving them. That's why we have theories instead of cold hard facts. And don't get on your soapbox, I'm a scientist of sorts myself. The more I learn about how the body works and all the intricate details of everything, the more I believe in a creation theory. Far too large of a coincidence for this to have all came from nowhere.

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