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? why are my broadheads way off when i shoot, verses field points??

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by Maleko, Feb 23, 2010.

  1. GMMAT

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    I would say you're NOT "tuned" to FP's, at all. Like I said....your fletchings will hide tuning errors (with FP tipped arrows). BH tipped arrows will identify/magnify them.
     
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    Thanks for the tuning guide......
    A quick browse through i have already noticed that my arrows may be to long. They say max 1 1/8" past the front of the rest, mine are about 4 inches past the front?
     
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    Careful.......

    Arrow length isn't so cut and dried. "It'll be what it'll be"....and your tuning efforts will tell you what that is.

    There's nothing inherently "wrong" with long arrows. I know plenty of traditional shooters who shoot their arrows full-length.

    Remember......there are many things you can do to manipulate dynamic spine. But, if you cut your arrows too short, you've taken away a valuable tool.
     
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    the tuning guide says my minimun total arrow weight should be 421 grains at 72lb pull and 28" draw. my arrows dont say what weight they are the only numbers on the arrow are 6075 carbon express.... if my arrows are to light will this effect flight path?
     
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    Is that all it says (6075)? When I type in "6075" into the search feature on their site....it yields no results.
     
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    Maybe the tuning guide was a bad idea....mainly wanted you to read the section about getting your BHs and FPs to hit together.

    Too light of an arrow could potentially harm your bow needless to say cause poor arrow flight. Some people have basically dry fired their bow by shooting too light of an arrow.

    The "6075" on your arrow is meant to be used at a draw weight of the 60-75 LB range BUT there are other things to consider. Point weight, shaft length, etc.

    Also, does your arrow say something like 8GPI (8 grains per inch)?

    This looks to be a good article.
    http://www.huntersfriend.com/carbon_arrows/hunting_arrows_selection_guide_chapter_3.htm
     
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    the tag that came with my bow says
    Arrow weight 359 grain
    ibo speed 316 fps
     
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    No nothing about weight
    all it says is Carbon express Terminator lite hunter 6075
     
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    At 359 grains....you're good. You generally want to be shooting 5 grains per each pound of draw weight. So....you're shooting 72lbs with a 359 gr arrow. That puts you at 4.98 gr/lb. Don't wanna go any lower than that. You could drop the poundage down a few pounds if you wanted to be on the safe side.

    Also remember, the heavier your arrow = a quiter bow. More arrow to absorb all that energy.
     
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    359 grains is what the bow was tested at, not what i am shooting now. i amnow worried i might be shooting to lite of an arrow since mine doesent have the weigh on them, i have shot a couple hundred shots with these arrows i am describing. i guess i would know by now if they were to lite? dry firing? correct?
    just want tp thank you all for your help, i am sure there are a few of you scratching your heads at me for asking these ( basic ) questions...:rolleyes:
     
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    I understand the arrow should be in a strait line with the string and rest when looking down the bow. BUt my sights are to the right of the arrow and string.
    does the sight pins need to be in the exact line as the center of the rest and arrow?
     
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    Thats pretty much normal....as I understand it. Mine is the same way and I know my bow is tuned. :)

    I'm sure your arrow is heavy enough. If nothing else, turn your bow down for now just to be safe. Do you need to be shooting at 72 lbs?
     
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    I'll say your sight being off to one side is a side effect of no bow being built that can propel an arrow in a perfectly straight line. Otherwise (unless you shot fingers-release)....those things (sight pins and string) WOULD be in a straight line.

    But, that's 201 class. Setting center shot is 101!
     
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    OK....your arrows are 9.8gpi (grains per inch). You're shooting a +/- 400gr. arrow. The spine on your arrows is .342. Some of these guys in here can help (I don't shoot a compound), to make sure you're spined correctly. But my guess is.....with arrows that long (and you shooting 70+#), you're under-spined for your setup.

    If that's the case.....and you want to keep your current draw weight, you have 2 choices:

    1. Shorten your arrows (sounds like you have some room to spare).
    2. Reduce tip weight (Not a good idea, IMO)
     
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    Have fun Maleko and don't get too stressed. In fact I recommend you "enjoy the ride" of tuning for the first time. If your persistent and you get a perfect match between bow and arrow you will thank yourself later. :)
     
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    thanks guys, for everything.. i am going to get some new arrows and mechanical heads that i like and researched about, then im going to tune step by step. the heads i have now were donated to me to try from a friend, and the arrows have been through hay bales quite a few times, as well as the fletching all wavy from going through the bales. i now have a appropiate target that wont destroy the heads and or arrows. i will do the paper test to see which way the arrows are flying.. I want to say thank you again you all have been very helpful, if you can think of any other things that can help a Newbie.... feel free to keep posting...
    Thanks, Maleko
     
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    Just don't get into bad practice habits. Research a bit on proper form and shot execution so you start the correct way. Good luck!
     
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    From as best I can tell, I agree with the advice here.

    You really don't need to go buy new arrows & such at this point. Wavy fletchings are no big deal.
    What's your draw length? and arrow length? That will give us a better idea of how much to shorten them. Also if you do get new arrows and such, you are going to want to make sure you get the right ones. Like already said, be careful with the mechanicals because they will just mask your problem, not fix it.
     

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