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Why are churches so racially segregated?

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by virginiashadow, Dec 13, 2010.

  1. Tony

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    ask God to show you and He will ... but His FIRST thing that He shows you will be the thing of repentance .... and that doesn't mean what most people think it does ... it means stop thinking what is true about God and Heaven and sin, and ask Him to show you thru His Word....
     
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    Matt ..... OUR definition of good is not enough to stand in the presence of God ... that is why He sent His Son to die ...so we may stand in Jesus Goodness! Ours is as filthy rags .... one blotch on a snow white canvas makes it unusable .... but Jesus is perfect :)
     
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    ugh, I edited that post because I decided that it would be best if I just stayed out of this thread.
     
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    I've always felt this way. My relationship with God is personal. So is yours and ever other man/woman's.

    One thing that's always puzzled me about Christianity (and this may not be the place for it. And, if it's not, forgive me) is.....75% of the inhabitants of the world will never even know of Christianity. Some followers will tell you that the ONLY way to Heaven is accepting Jesus Christ as your saviour.

    See the dilemma?

    My simple mind can't comprehend the God I have a relationship with creating so many people (are they, too, not children of his?) KNOWING that their souls are doomed to Hell.

    I can't grasp it.
     
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    I used to go to church all the time with my grandmother when I was younger. Actually, I went for four years straight w/out missing a Sunday. Got one of those el cheapo trophies for it. :D I also "preached" around that age too and had several people coming to the church that normally did not attend. I can't say I enjoyed it because I felt forced into doing it. Anyway, I then started working for my uncle at age 12 and stopped going (due to work). Ever since then, I've never really gotten back into it.

    I guess I'd consider myself baptist (but I really don't know) and the wife is Presbyterian. She wants to start going to church but doesn't want to go to a baptist church. I could care less which church we attend but it somewhat upsets me that she won't go to a baptist church. I wish we could find a non-denominational church....seems like the perfect solution to whatever the problem is....lol.
     
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    I think the dancer you really liked is a Lutheran.
     
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    One of my biggest questions as well, Jeff. I've always said that it doesn't make sense. It would be one thing if the entire world were exposed to his word and those whom rejected wouldn't be saved, but what about those that never knew of it?
     
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    I'm surprised she's anything. :D So...how is she doing? Doesn't she work at a restaurant you frequent?
     
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    x2 what about all the BC people.. Doomed really?
     
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    Restaurant? Heck, they serve food - "there"!

    Yes, she does. She's also been reading this thread and has seen the light. One thing's for sure.....being as how she was a dancer, we KNOW she isn't Baptist!

    (Honestly, I haven't seen her in years)
     
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    This just does not make sense whatsoever in the context of what Christianity is supposed to be all about....what the heck? Does anyone else sees this as totally illogical when applied to the teachings of the Bible?

    one of the biggest problems people have in general are generalizations. ALL churches aren't like you said ....most are because, like others have said, that's where people are comfortable ...and to each their own.

    This is not a generalization, this is supported by facts. And the facts state that nearly 90%-95% of all churches are racially segregated.
     
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    I took comparative religions back in skool many moons ago. We went to a mosque, a synagogue and churches of all types. As a kid I went to buddist temples.

    Maybe it's because I was in the city/burbs.... but I can't think of a single place of worship that I went to that was any one particular race. ('cept maybe the Greek Orthodox Church)

    To be fair we never went to Obama's church or to whatever that skinhead 'church is called. Those would be pretty segregated. ;)
     
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    mine isnt ...most of the churches I know arent ... now I am talking Bible believing churches ...sans those in areas where there arent anyone but white folk ....
     
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    where are Earth do you get 75%? That is WAY off, IMO ...
     
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    I've never been to a Church in NC where there were blacks there.

    Wait, I built a Church, and went to the dedication ceremony, where we were the only whites there.
     
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    I got that figure from a religion 201 class in college.

    But, for the sake of this discussion, let's not get caught up on the numbers. Let's just use a billion people as the number (<20%).

    Same question applies.
     
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    More food for thought:

    Question: "What happens to those who have never heard about Jesus?"

    Answer: All people are accountable to God whether or not they have “heard about Him.” The Bible tells us that God has clearly revealed Himself in nature (Romans 1:20) and in the hearts of people (Ecclesiastes 3:11). The problem is that the human race is sinful; we all reject this knowledge of God and rebel against Him (Romans 1:21-23). If it were not for God's grace, we would be given over to the sinful desires of our hearts, allowing us to discover how useless and miserable life is apart from Him. He does this for those who continually reject Him (Romans 1:24-32).

    In reality, it is not that some people have not heard about God. Rather, the problem is that they have rejected what they have heard and what is readily seen in nature. Deuteronomy 4:29 proclaims, “But if from there you seek the LORD your God, you will find him if you look for him with all your heart and with all your soul.” This verse teaches an important principle—everyone who truly seeks after God will find Him. If a person truly desires to know God, God will make Himself known.

    The problem is “there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God” (Romans 3:11). People reject the knowledge of God that is present in nature and in their own hearts, and instead decide to worship a “god” of their own creation. It is foolish to debate the fairness of God sending someone to hell who never had the opportunity to hear the gospel of Christ. People are responsible to God for what God has already revealed to them. The Bible says that people reject this knowledge, and therefore God is just in condemning them to hell.

    Instead of debating the fate of those who have never heard, we, as Christians, should be doing our best to make sure they do hear. We are called to spread the gospel throughout the nations (Matthew 28:19-20; Acts 1:8). We know people reject the knowledge of God revealed in nature, and that must motivate us to proclaim the good news of salvation through Jesus Christ. Only by accepting God’s grace through the Lord Jesus Christ can people be saved from their sins and rescued from an eternity apart from God.

    If we assume that those who never hear the gospel are granted mercy from God, we will run into a terrible problem. If people who never hear the gospel are saved, it is logical that we should make sure no one ever hears the gospel. The worst thing we could do would be to share the gospel with a person and have him or her reject it. If that were to happen, he or she would be condemned. People who do not hear the gospel must be condemned, or else there is no motivation for evangelism. Why run the risk of people possibly rejecting the gospel and condemning themselves when they were previously saved because they had never heard the gospel?

    Source = www.gotquestions.org
     
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    This is patently false. Sorry.

    You're touching on exemplifying my class envy comment.
     
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    Bible verse or not, its pompous statements like this that rub people the wrong way.

    If God actually said many of the things recited from the bible, then "he" would appear to be the most egostistical of them all.

    Does anyone else see that when reading/reciting these verses? Are you not allowed to question this? Am I way off? If so, please explain how. Thanks.
     
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    Vito....

    God gave me an interrogative disposition. I don't think it's disrespecful AT ALL to question things. I have a couple Jehovah's witnesses that come by here on occasion. We have the most WONDERFUL discussions! He loves me asking him questions. And, unlike most (in his line of "work"), he doesn't say...."because God say it's so". I'll say it again...we have WONDERFUL discussions.
     

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