I'm not buying it Doug. I mean, every student who hit the steel target (it was stationary and had absolutely no chance for movement) had all the confidence in the world prior to shooting. Each student who fails to hit the target ruins a $16 arrow. We do this to help prove a point. That point is, "This is not a game"-like pin the tail on the donkey or something. When you release an arrow, there are consequences...damage can be done (on many levels). It is your job as an archer to control that damage. The quote you've cited is out of context. If you continue to read, it says " wait for the animal to turn broadside or away". I'm not sure how that can be intrepreted any other way than "wait for the animal to turn broadside or away". The people have expressed themselves clearly, IMO. I will acknowlegde confidence is just a small fraction of the whole. The WILL of the people...well, that's part of the whole also. The equipment we use...another slice of the pie. The time of the year...we're half way there. I think you see where I'm going. Absolutely undeniable! Within the parameters...and as a completely knowledgeable archer excercising the utmost care...which has been requested. Thanks Rory :-)
very well put huckleberry when i was younger and learning how to hunt my father took me out with a shotgun and had me shoot a bird, i hit the bird and was so excited that i actually killed something and basically to me it was like a video game. My father then had me walk up to the bird and look at it and then he said "Ryan you know you just took that birds life with a simple pull of a trigger and it was pretty easy for you to do that. Now imagine if you shot at something bigger like a big game or even a human how easily you could hurt them. So always make a well placed shot so that way the animal never suffers and always be respectful of the animal" By him saying that i value the way i hunt and would much rather wait for the perfect shot that to hurt the animal and never find it.
Thanks for the support Long Beard. It's super easy to lose sight of the big picture. Yes, you may win in one arena, but by doing so, you simultaneously may lose in another. The trick to this game we play is to bring all the rings together. We can do that. I know we can! We have to be smart.
I have been hunting elk for 18 years in CO. I would never take a shot like that. I have seen elk hit with a one lung shot and we never found it. Elk are very tough animals and you have to respect that. Thats why I only take prime shots because I don't want to lose that animal. I think this video is a bad idea to post because it gives the idiots or non educated hunters the idea that they can take that shot and kill an elk. I would guess that 9 times out of ten this will be a wounded elk and will not be recovered. Just my thoughts.
No way would I ever take that shot! If you have to have that animal so bad that you can't wait on a proper shot go buy yourself a gun.
I hope most hunters wouldn't take this shot there is no room for error. Most guys can shoot x's all day long but that's on paper. When it comes to a hunting situation it's a different story your shooting at an animal thats moving or can move at any time.
I really think there are way to many variables to decide. I would take and have taken frontal shots. Mine were at no more then 15 yrds. with my xt on the ground. So thats 70lb draw with a rage 2 blade. Niether deer ran further then 40 yards. I really think it depends on your abilities, bow, broadhead, yardage, and mostly the angle of the shoot.
I just called a bull in on about the same approach for a guy i hunt with. He took pertty much a full frontal shot on a 7x7 bull like this one. If he wouldn't have the bull would have literally run him over. That elk dropped within 70 yards and only about 6 inches of arrow penetrated before it broke off, split the heart like a canoe! also love the Idaho archery at the bottom. I don't completely agree with the shot but i have seen it work out. So call me stupid but it has happened.
Northernredneck, Everyday, wack jobs and distracted drivers speed irresponsibly through red lights, but that doesn't make it right! Make sure you understand the point, the risks involved, and the lose of priviledge associated with such action. There are reasons why the majority says, "no". When you CAN completely agree with the shot, without reservation, then go for it!
What was the shot yardage? I see a lot of people saying the politically correct answer. I think that is the (internet forum) safe answer in hindsight and watching the video multiple times. Me ?? in a hunting situation with split seconds to decide....I can't offer a definite answer. I've made that shot (Albeit not on Elk) With fatal results. The Elk offers a deadly shot...perfect perhaps not, but not purely frontal either. As Will said, there were 2 options at that particular Elk shoot right then or watch him spin and disappear. As a hunter you know when it's now or never. The hunter made a good shot. I can't judge or say I'd have done anything different having not been there,
seems as though it coulda been tucked into one of that bulls 40 gallon lungs just as easily from that angle, no? that shot wasn't for me but im no pro!
Speaking of dicey shots, who caught the extreme quartering to shot on Bone Collectors the other night?
