Thanks Christine. Mike, you're creating "gray areas" where they really don't exist. The regs are spelled out pretty clearly. I know that feeding deer anything is not legal. I know that mock scrapes, urine, etc, is not considered feeding deer. I know that food plots created for wildlife are legal. It's not about "having to be right", I know I'm right
Licking something isn't ingesting it. Eating it is. So your argument that urine-based scents being licked on a branch is "ingesting", is wrong. However, if you spray a product on some leaves that is meant to attract the deer by scent, and it is a product that they will eat, it is illegal. I asked the CPO who patrols my area last year just to confirm it. If the deer can and will eat it, it's illegal in Illinois. Whether it's a liquid, solid, powder, etc doesn't matter. That's what I was told.
I have no argument there if the CPO in your area tells you that you can not use it then that is the line for you. except one thing JZ if you lick anything you will inherently ingest it. Really think about that for a sec if you lick a loly pop over and over you are mixing it with your saliva which in turn you are swallowing aren't you ? So would'nt that be ingesting it?
please show me the paragraph in the regs that state "food plots" are leagal from everything I see it says crops left standing. BUt please everyone I am not saying that I am completely right or that you are wrong what I am saying is that it is subjective and up to your local CPO to make a final decision at that point in time that he or she feels is correct. by the way STOP saying ILLEGAL thats a sick bird dammit I respect all of your views I just do not want you to feel like I am trying to push you to believe what I am saying just trying to get you to explore options that the book doesnt really tell you in true definition
ingestion [in-jes´chun] the taking of food, drugs, liquids, or other substances into the body by mouth. in·gest [ in jést ] 1.absorb something into body: to take food, liquid, or some other substance into the body by swallowing or absorbing it
When they say "crops left standing", it means you may not knock down the crops for deer to eat. In other words, if you plant corn for deer, it has to be harvested or removed completely (eventually). It has nothing to do with "being intended for humans". People plant clover, beans, oats, winter wheat, whatever. It's perfectly legal. You may not, however, plant marijuana
Come on Pearce - you're reaching for straws here buddy. You could take a leak in the woods and a deer may decide to lick it. That doesn't mean the DNR is going to ticket you for baiting. The use of scent-based attractants is pefectly fine. Yes, a deer may lick a branch that you put urine on but it certainly isn't going to eat it. The same can't be said for food-based attractants that the deer will inherently eat if you put it on a twig, a stump, some leaves, etc. If you spray out liquid that smells like food to a deer, and it comes and eats it, I interpret that as illegal per Illinois law. Of course every CPO is going to have a different opinion, and to further that a judge may have a different opinion yet. So the bigger question should be, is it worth the possible problems? I think you would agree that it's probably not. I can think of much better ways to spend my time than in a courtroom arguing over what ingestion means with some judge.
You may not, however, plant marijuana dammit I have a friend who planted throw and grow and he was told by the CPO in his area he had to remove it because it was not a "CROP". So again I am lost with that one. I personally will be using the spray as an added cover scent. spry my boots and my tree up near my stand so if a deer can climb 20 plus feet to eat it im done hunting lol
HA See JZ i did not say urine I said esturs the do make that gel crap (which I would not use ever again) and you are absolutely right thats why i said in my last post the way I would use it. besides spraying it on your pants to watch the deer chase you around hahahha
"please show me the paragraph in the regs that state "food plots" are leagal" "It is unlawful to make available food, salt, mineral blocks or other products for ingestion by wild deer or other wildlife in areas where wild deer are present. Except standing crops planted and left standing as food plots for wildlife." (Page 9-10 of the hunting digest) It's really not that gray. Also, please don't assume that you're the only one talking to the DNR.
Find two agents who even interpret what is on the books the same and win a prize let alone what they write tickets for and dont is another thing entirely.. case in point I had a guy trespassing on a far corner of some ground i caretake The guy had dumped 50 lb bags of corn threw the bags on the ground and you could see the tree the guy was using a climbing stand in. so i had a agent go down and check it out He told me he did not write him a ticket because the corn had some mold on it.. What about trespassing and where does it say anything about mold in the regs?? Clearly the guy was not going to enforce anything. Bet he never even got out of his truck
Lmao i have already quoted that. again "crops" is the key word there. Sent from my LG-E739 using Tapatalk 2
That's exactly my point ultramax. But most just want to argue what they understand it to mean on here. Besides the fact that again this thread was asking who uses corn not who uses corn in Illinois. Sent from my LG-E739 using Tapatalk 2
The bottom line is, you can plant food plots in IL. And Tom's liquid products are legal in the shady state of IL.
At some point (more than once) this Never did I ask some one to do anything illegal or what their thoughts on using corn was. Just wanted to know who uses corn and who would like to try our attractants with corn to show how much more the deer hit it with the attractants
looks like I'm late but if possile I would give it a try, 1 question tho , rite now I mix corn with Buck Booster ,can I use it with this combo or would it be too much ?
Monster Raxx - Oil, Corn, and Mineral Just put out 100# of corn... Mixed in Attractant Oil (MRxx-Deer Actractant) along with MRxx-Minerals. Stirred it all up with a shovel and set the camera and feeder for (2) meals a day... Hopefully, I'll be able to update with some good pictures. Side note: The minerals stucks well to the oil/corn mixure. Hopefully every nutritious, bit will be as delicious as the first. Brad
Did you lay down a blanket for their meal too haha! Sounds like an awesome idea and sweet deal for the deer nutrition wise.
Patent Pending... Sounds crazy but it's simple ideas that often get to be marketable items... If MonsterRaxx would like to partner up and use the above recipe, I'd be glad to take .25 cents from every Combo (Attractant, corn, and mineral) Raxx sold... :D
