Also technically food plus that are not harvested are against the law. I have also called the main office and i am sending them a copy of the label. When i spoke to them they said "if it is used as an attractant it is legal" i asked what that meant the answer i was given was " if you use it on any natural did sources with out physically altering them our piling then up it is fine to use" If you use scent wicks with die estrus on it a buck is ingesting out while he locks it and smells it. So Feb of you don't feel its ok then don't use it pretty simple. I have verbal and so written statements saying its ok to use. No christine needed lmao Sent from my LG-E739 using Tapatalk 2
Ok I just spoke to the dnr cpo down state. " if you use it solely as a food sourece or for consumption it is against the law." " however if you spray it on natural foliage, standing crops or a food plot it is leagl" He said I know I just muddy the waters with that staement but. the law states any foods placed or planted with the intension of feeding the deer i.e. food plots is against the law. So with that being said if you use it on your crops or food plots you wont have any issues but I would not recommend using it on any state or federal properties.
Pretty much. Our laws have alot of gray areas. So even if you plant a food plot you are taking a chance. But i really think it is a law based as a cover all so that they don't have to play the games on court of they do catch someone baiting. Do i really can't say what they would do since its up to the cpo in that area on that day and that Hunters attitude towards the cpo. But i don't feel i would have any problems Sent from my LG-E739 using Tapatalk 2
I use mineral blocks a lot but I only put them in front of my cameras, They are really good for the summer to see whats out there.
He is not ingesting it, that's my point. If it's just an odor to attract deer, it's fine. If it's meant to be eaten, it is not. Again Tom, you don't give much info on this new product, so I'm not sure what we're dealing with here. And MP, not sure who you're talking to, but food plots for deer are totally legal From the regs: Feeding deer is illegal except: standing crops planted and left standing as food plots for wildlife. Christine, where are you??! LOL
ok Lets get this straight feb if you lick a branch that I have dipped in a bottle of doe estrus you dont ingest it is that what your saying how does that make any sense in real logic. if someone sprays anything near you and you inhale it it has also mixed with your spit which you injest. use common sense not i wanna be right sense. by the way your own quote from the regs clearly says CROPS that means a source that can and was originally intended to be harvested by humans . And I talked to capt. swans and cpo winters if you would like to call there instead of reading the regs and saying that just your understanding of them is the right one. MonsterRaxx anytime acorn is an oil based attractant. deer find the acorn smell irresistable and they will keep on coming bcak for more. comon man stop trying to prove you are right by saying just what you want to believe and read the entire reg or just call like I have
FOR FEB: Feeding Wildlife It is unlawful to make available food, salt, mineral blocks or other products for ingestion by wild deer or other wildlife in areas where wild deer are present. Except: „I elevated bird/squirrel feeders providing seed, grain, fruit, worms, or suet for birds or squirrels located within 100 feet of a dwelling devoted to human occupancy. „I incidental feeding of wildlife within active livestock operations. „I feeding of wild animals, other than wild deer, by hand as long as a reasonable attempt is made to clean up unconsumed food. „I feeders for wildlife other than deer so long as deer are excluded from the feed in and around the feeder by fencing or other barriers. „I standing crops planted and left standing as food plots for wildlife. „I grain or other feed scattered or distributed solely as a result of normal agricultural, gardening, or soil stabilization practices. „I standing, flooded, or manipulated natural vegetation or food/seed deposited by natural vegetation. „I grain or other feed distributed or scattered solely as the result of manipulation of an agricultural crop or other feed on the land where grown, for purposes of dove hunting. „I food material placed for capturing or killing wildlife pursuant to 520 ILCS 5/2.37, 2.30, and 1.3. „I scientific permits issued pursuant to 17 Ill. Adm. Code 520 that allow food to attract wildlife. „I any other permits issued by the Department of Natural Resources that require the attraction of wildlife for purposes of management, research or control. „I Violation of the provisions of this part is a Petty Offense with a maximum fine of $1,000. NOTE: Hunting deer over bait is a separate offense. See pg.15. Hunting Deer Over Mineral Salt or Bait It is unlawful to take deer by using salt, mineral or other kind of bait. In addition, it is unlawful to feed deer at any time, even when not hunting (see page 10-11). NOTE: An area is considered as baited during the presence of and for 10 consecutive days following the removal of illegal bait. For example, a hunter learns of illegal bait near his hunting location. The hunter must now wait 10 days after the complete removal of said illegal bait in order to legally hunt that location.
FEB they are an oil based attractant. It comes in a 8 ounce bottle an is highly concentrated. There are 3 different scents to choose from. They also have alot of different uses. I spray it on licking branches and on vegetation in front of cameras. I know customers pour it on stumps as well. I also spray it on food plots to get the deer to go where I want them. Whatever you spray it on they can smell it from a long ways away and eat what it is sprayed or poured on. I know of a person who sprayed it on cattails in a swamp to get the deer to stop for pictures and the deer ate the cattails. The other thing I do here in MN is mix one bottle with 100 pounds of corn during the off season when it is legal to get as many pics as I can. I get 10 times more pics and way more daytime pics than using plain corn. I just started selling gallon jugs of the Whitetail Magnet becasue some customers who spray alot of their food plots with it asked for it in bulk. Here is a pic of a spot on a 10 acre soy bean field where I sprayed the Whitetail Magnet in a 10'x10' section in front of my camera to show I could get the deer to go where I wanted them. This pic was 3 weeks after I sprayed it and look what is left of the beans.
I ahve been hunting and fishing for 34 years inn illinois feb and never not once have i gotten a ticket or as much as a warning for doing something against the law. besides the fact that if I did not know what I was saying or atleast took the right avenues to get the answers I was looking for I would not have mentioned them at all. Just remember this if you are hunting over a field that has been picked and they dropped some corn or beans on the way out and your stand is right by it you have to prove to the CPO that you did not put it there you my friend have the burdan of proff but the hay the choice at the end of it all based on you attitude and actions. If I was to use the spray and my local CPO decided that I should'nt use it I would stop the use of it without a debate. if you fish on a boat you technically break the law everytime you add a fish to the live well with other people. all limits are to be kept seperate according to the regs. but the CPO isnt going to give you a ticket for it. if all of you are legal and with in your limits
LMAO Matt im not confused at all i just dont guess I call them (DNR) on it and let them tell me their understandingof the reg. but the laws here are very gray un can be very frustrating
That whole paragraph is just hilarious. I don't have to call anyone, because the regs are very clear to me. Good luck with your season
You too feb. just remember what you read is not always what it means. by the way you should come take my hunter safety class sometime you might like to talk to the CPO's we have that come speak to the class lmao
Tom, sounds like a heckuva product. I hunt a property in N.Wisconsin too, and may just give you a call!
Sounds good FEB if you have any other questions about it or if any one else wants to know more about it you can send a PM oe email me or just give me a call. My cell is 763 269 1962 I am always willing to help with what ever I can. It is hard to describe every thing on a post about the attractants since there is nothing like it.
I use corn in front of cameras here in Indiana, I hunt over it some in NC...i dont use it anywhere else I go....but I always get tons of pictures with it, and the hunting is pretty good down south with it too
"It is unlawful to make available food, salt, mineral blocks or other products for ingestion by wild deer or other wildlife in areas where wild deer are present." If you put out 'attractant' that attracts deer because they like to ingest it... it's illegal in Illinois. End of story.
Christine: If you kill a deer that been hit by a car it's against the law in Illinois but we both know someone that has done just that dont we. Again this thread was asking a question of all of the forum members not just the ones in IL. Secondly as soon as a DNR CPO types on here that it is aginst the law then I will stand by what a DNR CPO has explained to me. I seem to be the only on this thread that knows how to use a phone and ask for the legal definition of the statement. It's not that hard just pick up the phone and call them. So by your understanding of the paragraph if I spray a cotton ball or rag and hang it out of the deers reach it would be LEGAL because they can not ingest it.. But if you make a mock scrap, licking stick or other attracting method and the deer is LICKING it they are not injesting it? I have videos of multiple deer licking and rubbing the smae scrapes and rubbs. One deer had so much mud on his nose you could not even see the holes in his nose.
