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Who here gets the virus first?

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Sota, Mar 12, 2020.

  1. Okiebob

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    Why cant we all just get along and share hate for every lying sack of chit politician out there. But I guess its entertaining thinking that a one side or the other really cares about you or I. And in the meme time you can follow some far sided online "publication" that helps you think you're the difference in policy and how things in Washington get done bc you know this one I follow tells the truth and doesnt sell ad space and they have a podcast with a strong presence on Factbook, I mean Facebook. Rant over.
     
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    Anyone that look both of these parties over the last 50 years feel that have governed well is insane.
    Tribalism overrides rationality.
     
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    That's my next bumper sticker, to top it off I'm going to buy a Prius to put all my self made bumper sticker on or I'll just wait for my wife and her Tesla truck.
     
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    Assault and burglary call.
     
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    That truck is bad ass!!!
     
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    Best line about the mainstream news, it was said by Oliver about FOX and their Covid-19 coverage, but I like for all of them,

    "They only pretend to believe these things on television for money."
     
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    hydroxychloroquine have not heard about this much, is the hype over?
     
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    Yup. Stick a fork in it (with or without the zpack).

    Time to reallocate the hype to other drugs...
     
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    Didn't seem to be a one size fits all like a vaccine would be. Still quite a few people that claim it helped them, so just like gun control, if it saved just one life it was worth it.

    Would like to know if Boris Johnson took it.

    And one thing I have been wondering lately.

    Where the hell is Harvey Weinstein? He was diagnosed with it and then just disappeared and not a peep since...
     
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    Unfortunately that seems to be the case.
     
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    Inconclusive on the hydroxychloroquine which is what you asked about. Those studies are about using with Z-pac.

    From the same article.

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    As for using the use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine alone, the panel said there was "insufficient clinical data to recommend either for or against." It reached the same conclusion about the drug remdesivir."
     
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    Really simple. We know that azithromycin is effect in treating secondary bacterial infections at clinical doses. You would not forgo using a proven drug for the treatment and preventive secondary infection to just "hope " hydroxchloroquine may work especially since from the very start there wasn't been any clinical studies showing that it had positive effects. In other words even a half asses Dr isnt going to not prescribe azithromycin.
    The idea is to NOT get bacterial pneumonia and die.
     
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    And his question was about Hydroxychloroquine was it not? Germ even thought Trump was correct. Many, including a Democrat member of government said it saved her and thanked Trump.

    Trunps pushed it, and at times inclused "Z-pac" along with it but mostly hy pushed Hydroxychloroquine.

    So yes, he was wrong on the combination, but again, it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
     
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    There is no way to prove that it saved her or anyone live without a controlled study. Can anyone say with scientific data they would have not got better without it? We don't know, it's not about being right or wrong here. It's about finding treatments that work.
     
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    I get that, so let's turn the equation a bit. Is it fair to say that everyone who had Covid-19 and died, died because of Covid-19 and not just with it? Can anyone say they with scientific data they would not have died with not having it? Even if it was only presumed they had it?

    At least with those who pulled through, we know they at least took it.

    Either way, orange man bad
     

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