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Who here gets the virus first?

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Sota, Mar 12, 2020.

  1. 0317

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    he is the Mengle of today ...
     
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    I was just playing devils advocate on word choice there...
    Coercion in and of itself is already "forced"... And comparing the coerced vaccination to rape seems abrasive at first, however:

    "Forced insertion of unwanted foreign object with release of fluids..."

    So well said sir.
     
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    that sound you hear is the Fed pumping electronic US dollars directly into his bank account, and sentencing your great grandchildren to indentured servitude...

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    the FDA says the vaccine is safe, the same FDA approved Oxy as a safe pain management drug.
     
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    all one has to do is look at the dozens of drugs pulled off the market only after years of use, then finding out how harmful they really were .... now we have the non-vaccines ...... and there is also quite a bit of info on how damaging the non-vaccines are to some people ... however BIG pharma money talks and is now in the pockets of politicians ...
     
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    Still averaging around 80% of hospitalized patients are unvaccinated.
     
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    Appreciate the update, everyone is entitled to their opinions but when something can come from the horses mouth regardless if it supports their opinion is valuable information. Have you seen a swing of hospital capacity in the last year? In Minnesota our hospital capacity has dropped about 20%.
     
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    Just curious, would demographics suggest that most of the patients are age 70+ and/or obese? Early information suggested that those people are being hospitalized the most.
     
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    "Since January, we've had about 289 deaths; 75% are unvaccinated people," Dover said. "And the very few (vaccinated people) who passed away all were more than 6 months out from their shot. So we've not had a single person who has had a booster shot die from Covid."

    "Michigan’s hospitals are so overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients now that others who are sick are now dying at home rather than seeking care in packed emergency rooms, University of Michigan doctors said Wednesday."

    Seems to fit with the Westfinger post.

    Perhaps we should start listing to those on the frontlines, but we won't.
     
  11. Westfinger

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    Our capacity hasn’t decreased. During some local surges we closed down our endoscopy unit to convert it into a clean ICU to make more beds.
    I don’t have that data but I would say that is probably true from my own observations. That being said exceptions exist that I’m personally aware of. That is what I find most troubling some people that you think would have an easy course end up in big trouble. The opposite is also true.
     
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    I would say it the same in the hospital where I work, most hospitalizations are 70+ and/or severely obese. Pretty rare that an otherwise under 70 and healthy weight individual is hospitalized. Not impossible, but not common either.
     
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    walking around the ICU where my sister is at, nearly all the patients are markedly obese. Can't attest to the average ages as it's kind of hard to see their faces. I do know the one guy in her wing that's not really fat is pretty old, probably late 70s or older.
     
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    I would say comorbidities are also a big factor regardless of age.
     
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    I’m just presenting what I’m experiencing. It’s up to the individuals to make an informed decision.
     
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    Well I guess if one is educated listing to a doctor like you working in the icu or one who believes in demons, I’ll take pick you;)


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    I had a some what simular situation. Though it was an age thing in high school. I knew I could end up pushing her to a wrong decision by putting my foot down. In other words...become sneaky. So I gave the choice to her. I meet this guy at a local pizza place and he submits to my questions. If he really likes you this should not be an issue.
    Well that little punk thought he was a smooth talker. The long and short he answered the questions so she could hear his answers. I told him limitations and conditions. Still tried being a smooth talker. I then leaned over the table and said did she tell you about my dad? No. Well his 2nd wife cheated on him and he cut the guy in half with a shot gun and is in prison. Now I'm not my father. I bow hunt and you touch my little girl....you won't hear the shot before it hits you...just saying. They went to one day time movie and he never asked her out again.
     
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