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  1. dnoodles

    dnoodles Legendary Woodsman

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    wishing her and the rest of your family the best.
    Supposedly one of those is only something like 48% effective on Delta. Whatever that means.

    And the a-hole who brought it into your wife's work should be tarred and feathered. Covid or a head cold, if you come into an office setting hacking and coughing you are a special kind of scumbag.
     
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    Sota Legendary Woodsman

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    Like I said I refuse to be the guy that brings it in.
     
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    Guys/Ladies... this is one of those must watch videos, its about the damage these jabs do to your immune system, and this is from a REAL doctor who took the time to do testing and with approval of one of his patients... the results may scare the crap out of you, esp. if you have taken the jabs .. hopefully Youtube dosnt pull it

     
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    dnoodles Legendary Woodsman

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    thanks for this. This doctor is just down the road from me, might have to make him my primary care.
     
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    Well, they just started their truth purge on videos related to the vaccine, so I doubt it will be up for long.


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    yeah, this video is toast by tomorrow. Heck, his channel may get suspended. Basically, he claims his data indicates that the shots appear to have caused the patient to exhibit symptoms of an acquired immuno-deficiency syndrome.

    You get the shots, your killer T cell count crashes over short periods of time, your lymphocytes go crazy trying to repair tissue damage, rinse, repeat.

    An acquired immuno-deficiency syndrome....huh.
    ...where have I heard that term before?
     
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    I trust this doctor more than Fauci

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    He's a Chiropractor. :lol:
     
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    He’ll have dnoodles back for sure


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    I won't discount what this guy said or showed in his video, but there's a lot to keep in mind here. This is far from definitive evidence of widespread issues with the vaccines. We're looking at blood work from a single person, who was admittedly very unhealthy not all that long ago. So we see some anomalies post-vaccination, but no long-term look at whether those numbers righted themselves weeks or months later. Which is kind of ironic considering people are very hesitant to get the jab due to unknown long-term issues. However, they'll accept this one testimonial from this one person without any long-term studies to back any of it up.

    And keep in mind Chiropractors don’t hold medical degrees, so they aren’t medical doctors.

    Confirmation bias is a real bugger.
     
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    Wife said she is feeling good this morning, I told her still get tested.
     
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    Confirmation bias is a real bugger.[/QUOTE]

    That is what fuels the extreme right and left.
     
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    First in person meeting in a year and a half today. Should be interesting to see who has/has not been vaccinated. You need to either show proof of vaccination or wear your mask.
     
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    That was the mistake I made, I should have said lose the mask if you have proof of vaccination, I made the mistake of taking people's word and trusting them.
     
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    he stiil did the blood work and understands that the Tcells have been damaged .... there are many article outling this problem ... remember many many times it takes years for negatives to show from drugs, look at how many have been pulled thru the years ... the crap is NOT going in me ... period !!

    Pfizer vaccine destroys T cells, weakens the immune system – study

    A study from the Francis Crick Institute in the United Kingdom has found that the Pfizer-BioNTech Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine destroys T cells and weakens the immune system. But pharmaceutical corporations are trying to suggest that the only way to prevent this from happening is for people to get third or booster doses of their vaccines.

    T cells are immune cells that can focus on targeting specific foreign particles. They are most commonly studied in relation to their ability to fight cancer and infectious diseases, but they are also essential for other aspects of the body’s immune response.

    There are two kinds of T cells: killer T cells and helper T cells. Killer T cells directly attack cells that have already been infected by foreign particles. Helper T cells aid other cells to develop killer cells and stimulate other cells to create neutralizing antibodies.

    This study from the Francis Crick Institute focuses on the neutralizing antibodies created by T cells. It analyzes whether the Pfizer vaccine helps the T cells create enough antibodies to fight off the COVID-19 variants.

    Pfizer vaccine barely produces antibodies to fight against COVID-19
    The Francis Crick Institute, in collaboration with the British National Institute for Health Research, released a study that showed that the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine produced fewer neutralizing antibodies against COVID-19’s variants. (Related: Spanish study finds Pfizer vaccine contains high levels of TOXIC graphene oxide.)

    The scientists analyzed the antibodies from the blood of 250 healthy adults who have received either one or two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine up to three months after their first dose.

    The researchers used a test specially developed by the Francis Crick Institute to figure out the ability of the neutralizing antibodies to prevent the entry of the COVID-19 variants.

    It found that only 50 percent of the people who received a single dose of the Pfizer vaccine had a quantifiable neutralizing antibody response against the alpha variant of COVID-19. This number decreased even further to just 32 percent and 25 percent for the delta and beta variants, respectively.

    The situation gets worse for older individuals who have weaker immune systems. The researchers found that older vaccine recipients generated even fewer antibodies. Coupled with the vaccine’s ability to destroy T cells and weaken the immune system even further, getting vaccinated could spell disaster for many people.

    No correlation was observed for gender or body mass index. The authors of the study want to pursue further studies to check the capabilities of other vaccines, starting with the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine.

    “So, the key message from our finding is we found that recipients of the Pfizer vaccine, those who have had two doses, have about five- to six-fold lower amounts of neutralizing antibodies,” said David Bauer, head of the Bauer Lab in the Francis Crick Institute. He continued:

    “Now, these are the, sort of, gold standard, private security antibodies of your immune system which block the virus from getting into your cells in the first place. So, we’ve found that that is less for people with two doses. We also found that for people with only one dose of the Pfizer jab that they are less likely to have high levels of these antibodies in their blood.”

    Instead of recommending that people stay away from the COVID-19 vaccines to protect their natural immune systems, Bauer instead said people should get booster doses of the vaccines. He also said older people should be prioritized in the distribution of booster doses.

    “And perhaps most importantly for all of us going forward is that we see that the older you are, the lower your levels are likely to be. And the time since you’ve had your second jab, as that time goes on, the lower your levels are also likely to be,” he said. “So, that’s telling us that we are probably going to be needing to prioritize boosters for older and more vulnerable people.”

    Learn more about the inability of the COVID-19 vaccines to prevent coronavirus infections and the push for booster doses by reading the latest articles at Vaccines.news.
     
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    Researchers from Spain have discovered that the Pfizer-BioNTech Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine contains graphene oxide.

    The research team from the University of Almeria‘s Department of Engineering recently published a report titled “Graphene Oxide Detection in Aqueous Suspension: Observational Study in Optical and Electron Microscopy.”

    In this study, the Spanish researchers found that each dose of the Pfizer vaccine they examined contained around 747 nanograms of graphene oxide. This meant that more than 99 percent of the Pfizer vaccine was made up entirely of graphene oxide.

    Graphene oxide, a material formed from graphite, is a known toxic substance. Previous studies have shown that graphene-based materials like graphene oxide can cause dose-dependent toxicity. It can damage the liver and the kidneys, spur on the formation of granulomas in the lungs, decrease cell viability and trigger cell apoptosis or pre-programmed cell death.

    Animal studies have found that injection of graphene oxide in the body deposits the toxic substance in the lungs, liver, spleen and kidneys. Researchers have also reported difficulty in cleansing the material out of the body.

    Many face masks being peddled by corporations are coated or lined with graphene. (Related: Wearing face masks coated in graphene can cause serious lung problems, warns Health Canada.)

    In their report, the Spanish researchers also discovered significant amounts of graphene oxide in the swabs used in polymerase chain reaction and antigen tests. These tests are used supposedly to detect COVID-19.

    Medical expert: No reason for graphene oxide to be in vaccines “except to murder people”
    The revelation regarding the Spanish report and the graphene oxide in the Pfizer vaccines first came to light after it was reported by conservative commentator Stew Peters on his show, The Stew Peters Show.

    Peters brought medical expert and 20-year pharmaceutical researcher Dr. Jane Ruby onto the July 8 episode of his show to talk about what graphene oxide is and its effects on the human body.
     
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    That is all true, let real science determine the truth here. This guy noticed a problem with his patients health, (observation)he believes the vaccine is the issue, (hypothesis) and wants other doctors to run similar tests on patients who receive a vaccine and see if there is a pattern. (Test hypotheses, analyze data, form conclusion)


    Maybe it’s a one off, maybe it isn’t. Maybe it’s huge issue that will have lasting effects, maybe it’s not. The problem is there is no data one way or another. And this guy will probably be canceled for just speaking up.


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    I agree with everything you said here.

    My point is that people who are anti-vax will grab onto this one piece of anecdotal evidence brought forth by someone who isn't even a medical doctor and hold it up as the gospel on why their beliefs are right and everyone who disagrees with them are wrong. While at the same time disregarding peer-reviewed science from medical experts because it doesn't confirm their beliefs.
     
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    At this point I'm just anti-booster. I'd rather contract it with lesser symptoms, if I'd have even had symptoms to begin with, and get better natural immunity over another shot(s).

    I'm also anti-Fauxi, that dude needs to go and stay off the air waves after doing so
     
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