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  1. cls74

    cls74 Legendary Woodsman

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    Bit of an odd capture.....

    Sick emm effers....


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    It’s on Twitter I am comviced, just like I was when you guaranteed Hillary would be running in 2020, remember that? Should we go back and list the many other times you were dead wrong. You remind me of the 7th day Church folks predicting end of times, eventually they are going to be right. You may be right here and you may be right about the lab leak. Sorry I am not going to fall in line;)


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    dnoodles Legendary Woodsman

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    That was a political prediction, not a policy analysis.
    I am occasionally wrong on the first. Nearly never on the latter.
    And not for nothing, but I specifically said she would be installed as the nominee without running. So if you're going to point out when I am wrong at least get the details right.

    And I am guessing you didn't bother to click on the video so as not to believe your lying eyes. This isn't about an opinion being proven correct, this is about reality.

    I wish I was wrong on this, but I am not.
     
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    You have fallen in line. It's all the great people on here trying to pull you out of line to see the truth.
     
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    Since they are illegal this should be easy to see in states like Florida, All Desantos has to do is get the records from the hospitals and test. We should see a huge influx of non-citizens correct? They have no HIPPA rules to follow, so DeSantos should have this data out ASAP
     
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    Hospitals don't ask for that information. I wish they did but they don't.
    DeSantis is already making the claim.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/d...of-migrants-are-heading-to-florida/ar-AAMlSR0

    I read yesterday that over 13% of illegals in CBP custody are testing positive. Extrapolate that out to the tens of thousands who are not being detained but instead being sent inland, a huge percentage of which are Florida.

    Taking CBP's and DeSantis numbers together and rounding down, 1500 apprehended in the RGV every day, 70% headed to FL, that's 1050, 10% positivity, that's 105 C19 positive people being unloaded into FL every day since at least January, so multiply that by 240 days and you have over 25,000 C19+ illegals having been injected into the state (C19 aside, that's over 250k illegals into FL total.) Not to mention how many people they have spread it to once there; and also not taking into account how many "got aways" (not encountered by Border Patrol) end up in Florida on their own.

    It's not opinion, it's math.
     
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    Germ makes a silly and somewhat idiotic rebuttal.

    No one is claiming that hospitalizations of Covid positive people are all illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants, for the most part, are middle aged and younger. Which has been the demographic least susceptible to the effects of Covid-19. Yet, we have been told, just because you have no symptoms doesn't mean you can't transmit it to others who are.

    100's of thousands of illegal immigrants released to wherever they want to go, and none of them are infected? Only a fool would believe such nonsense.
     
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    it's not just that, but illegals are nearly wholly dependent upon ER visits as primary care.
    What exactly counts as "hospitalization"? Most of these people are homeless. Think they won't take an overnight admission if they can get it? Think the hospitals won't take government reimbursement for every C19 admission?

    The government is creating and incentivizing the entire process.
     
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    How about follow the laws made by Congress themselves and protect our fing borders. Nothing more nothing less. Follow the law created by the highest law makers in the land.
     
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    The more I watch our leadership give press conferences and look into the data they're putting out to the public, the angrier I get.

    Last night at JB's presser, Illinois' top doc spouted off a bunch of stats about C19 cases and hospitalizations in kids. This was all in support of our new mask mandate for everyone in schools - vaccinated or not. She used a variety of stats from different age groups, some of which aren't even school age, and then spoke in gross general percentages rather than hard numbers. As you can imagine, she did this because the actual numbers don't support the need for masks. But, if you misconstrue those numbers as percentages of the whole, they appear to be more severe. So while what she's saying isn't necessarily untrue, it's a gross misrepresentation of reality that is meant to scare people into compliance.

    As an example, she said kids 0-10 accounted for 2.5% of all cases in January, and that number is up to 7.8% of all cases in July. She also said hospitalizations in people under 20 used to be 5.5% of the total in January, and now that is up to 15% in July. Any person watching this on the news or reading a headline is being purposely misled to believe that the pandemic is worsening for kids. After all, the numbers have tripled!

    Reality shows that the hard numbers are actually going down. Back in Jan we had 155,000 new C19 cases in Illinois, about 8,500 of those were kids 0-10. In July we were down to 32K total cases, and 4,400 were kids 0-10. For hospitalizations, we went from around 80 people under 20 in Jan to 60 people under 20 in July. So while the percentage of the whole increased, the total volume of both cases and hospitalizations is down significantly from January. But since those numbers don't lend support to a mask mandate in schools, they aren't talked about.

    Additionally, we should expect the percentage represented by younger people to increase as more elderly are vaccinated and thus represent fewer cases and hospitalizations. If nothing else, this information should be used to present the efficacy of vaccines and how they are keeping the most vulnerable people of our population safer, while cases hold steady or even decline in kids.

    Both of these pieces of information are true. But which one supports the idea that we need masks for schools?

    The percentage of hospitalizations of people under 20 with C19 has tripled since January.

    We have seen a 25% decline in the number of people under 20 hospitalized with C19 since January.

    I don't believe that the top doctor in our State is a moron by any stretch. She didn't get to this position in life because she's stupid. Which makes this even more egregious because she knows EXACTLY what she's doing.
     
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    This is what is killing our country. Liars and those that go along with liars as long as it supports their agenda. No honor.
     
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    All goes back to the power of the Unions, not saying union workers, but the heads of the unions that allocate the union workers dues.

    I still say they would rather go to remote learning permanently now that they got a taste of it.

    I'm still waiting for my refund of the portion of the property taxes I paid that went to the closed schools.

    The CDC is controlled by the politicians who are controlled by the unions and other big money donors.

    I also think the reason for a lot of this is due to the immigration surge bringing the big wave of infections, those kids will also be given access to schools.
     
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    Naive question. Why wasn't immigration at the front of the last Covid outbreak? Why is it a thing with this variant? It seems like people hear something from the media and then cling to that. Am I just dumb and uninformed?
     
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    At the start we had strong border policies, now we have open borders and the wave of illegal entry is at or near record levels.

    I don't base this off any media stories, I base it off common sense, it isn't coincidental that this latest surge in Covid cases and thousands of illegal migrants being peppered throughout the nation.
     
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    The media isn't covering the border surge. It is monumental and at the highest levels in decades. It is beyond anything we have seen yet the Biden admin is given a free pass bc they are protected.
     
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    And we're only starting month 7 of 48......
     
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    this the Biden administration wanting to upend the success DeSantis is having in FLA ...
     
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    Joe and the democrats are afraid of DeSantis, they want to beat him down because he may be the candidate in 2024.
     
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