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Who here gets the virus first?

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Sota, Mar 12, 2020.

  1. cantexian

    cantexian Legendary Woodsman

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    This does not help your argument. It strengthens @fletch920's position.
     
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    'Business opportunity'[​IMG]
     
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    It's not just the masks. They're already banning speech, assembly, and the free practice of religion... all in the name of "preventing the spread. "
     
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    You know why, because it prevents the spread. Remember when condoms could save you from AIDS? Kind of like that. lol

    Also, our Ukranian population lost lives due to them holding church services against our Governor's mandate. Guess what, they were the only local church family to have cases caused from assembling because they were the only church to have services. It's almost like we really do know how to help prevent the spread. They had one wedding that resulted in at least 15 new cases in our county. I guess there may be a conspiracy to keep people from getting married also. Damn Gubment trying to save us from being stupid again I guess.
     
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    Sota Legendary Woodsman

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    Unless people are "peacefully protesting"
     
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    I agree that it is stupid for protests to happen. But, it in no way prevents them from getting a virus.

    The virus can not move on its own. It takes people to move it. Don't move it for a few days, and it is dead. It really is just that simple. But, we can't keep idiots from moving with it.
     
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    Not. Its. Job.
    In fact, it's expressly forbidden- in the first sentence of the charter which established our Government.
     
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    If you ever want to read about an absolute failure of politics and the division of a party just Google Kansas Tea Party political failure. The evidence is insurmountable. It makes sense in hindsight though. And not that I enjoy quoting Asimov but this seems to ring more true than the day he said it.

    "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
     
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    So, let them assemble and spread covid to not only themselves, but the rest of the community because it should be their right? But, I can't yell "Fire" in a crowded theater. ????? Also, I have a right to bear arms, but I can't shoot my guns in the city limits. How can that be fair and just? I can drive, but I must follow state and federal rules. They shouldn't be able to tell me how to drive. Look, I get where you are coming from, but the state and local governments would not have to step in if people would govern themselves and do what is right for themselves and their neighbors. Your mind is set, so is mine. So be it.

    Peace to you and yours and I hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving. I am grabbing my mask and heading to the grocery store to get some good steaks to grill tomorrow for a very non-traditional meal.
     
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    When the answer to all decisions that may you disagree with always leads to rants pointing out the" real motivations", and the sinister nature of the decision makers or of grand suspected far reaching conspiracies. It may behoove you to consider some self introspection verse the alternative of everyone else being nefarious individuals in on the "plot."

    It's like the saying. If you meet an ******* an hour into your day, you might have just met an *******. However if you have met nothing but assholes every hour of the day, well ....your the *******.
     
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    Not always, I have been in some very ******* rich environments.
     
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    We've all been to Boston...
     
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    Oh my gosh, I belly laughed at that! Thanks
     
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    What would you expect from a town full of Brady fans? I have never been to Boston, thanks for the heads up.
     
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    Wife has a relative that spent 5 days on supplemental O2.

    I have 3 coworkers that have been out a month. Cant even walk from bedroom to kitchen without having to lean against a wall for a break
     
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    So part of wearing a mask PROPERLY, is to put a new mask on each time you remove one and then have to remask.

    Raise your hand if you have seen people reuse their mask.....over and over and over.

    We have people at work who have worn the same mask (surgical style) since April. The things are filthy and no longer properly fit.

    But just ask them, they are wearing a mask.

    We got some real f@@king maroons in this country.
     
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    They call them Massholes.
     
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    WUHAN, CHINA IS OVER IT’S COVID-19 PANDEMIC
    From Brownstone Research, November 24, 2020
    With every week that passes, we become more and more knowledgeable about COVID-19, how it spreads, how it doesn’t spread, and how to treat and protect against it. Sadly, very little of this knowledge is shared with the public.
    Some extensive research was published days ago out of Wuhan, China. Yes, that’s the origin of COVID-19 where this mess all started. The research, however, was interesting and valuable. The city actually tested its entire population aged six years and older.
    They ran a polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test on 9,899,828 citizens at cycle threshold settings between 37 and 40. This setting is extremely high (sensitive). In the U.S., the setting is also 40. And in Europe, the settings are typically between 40 and 45.
    This level of amplification serves no diagnostic purpose in terms of finding those who are currently infectious. At these levels, a PCR test will find dead remnants of COVID-19 from someone who had the virus months ago. In other words, the person isn’t infectious anymore.
    The results of the research are telling. From all the tests, no new symptomatic cases were found. The virus had run its course in Wuhan. And 300 asymptomatic cases were found.
    Of the 300, 190 tested positive for COVID-19 antibodies, indicating that they had likely been infected within the last few months. The others likely had COVID-19 even further out and had already developed T cell immunity.
    The most important insight, however, came from the fact that none of the samples taken from the 300 asymptomatic cases produced a live virus in cultures examined in a lab setting. This confirmed that these asymptomatic cases are not infectious. Put more simply, people who are asymptomatic cannot spread COVID-19.
    And this is precisely the problem with PCR testing with high cycle threshold values. The majority of the “positive” cases are not infectious. They are false positives, yet we are treating these cases as if they are infectious. And we are implying that the virus is spreading and out of control.
    The virus is not out of control. It is our inaccurate testing that is out of control. If we only tracked and reported on those who were symptomatic and capable of spreading COVID-19, there would be no fear and panic…We have a “casedemic,” not a pandemic.
    Worth noting is that in the U.S., we eclipsed two million tests a day last Saturday. The results are pretty meaningless, but the companies that produce and offer the tests are doing very well – sales are fantastic.
    Even the World Health Organization (WHO) has recognized that asymptomatic cases are not a risk to the spread of COVID-19. Back in June, Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove from the WHO stated: “We have a number of reports from countries who are doing very detailed contact tracing. They are following asymptomatic cases, they are following contacts and they are not finding secondary transmission onward. It’s very rare and much of that is not published in the literature.”
    We also know through other research released last week that our body’s immune system memory of COVID-19 lasts longer than six months and most likely a lot longer. We don’t know how much longer exactly, as we have only been managing and researching COVID-19 since the spring of this year. As the months pass, we’ll be able to track how much longer immunity lasts.
    The majority of the “new cases” that we hear about every day are asymptomatic. And asymptomatic cases do not spread COVID-19. So what the heck are we doing? Why would we force healthy, asymptomatic people to quarantine for two weeks?
    And for that matter, why would we force them to wear masks? We also know based on the studies from Parris Island, South Carolina, and Denmark that I shared that masks don’t protect the wearer from COVID-19. The current policy response is an exercise in futility.
    And we’re being told not to gather with loved ones for Thanksgiving… and now Christmas? No, thank you. Most of us have been good team players, waiting for the scientific research to come out. Now we have it. It’s time to start making some rational decisions based on facts and scientific evidence.



    You just go right ahead and keep right on doing what the main stream media tells you to do, and believing that your mask is actually doing some good......At some point you will figure out that this is all about control and spreading fear.
    When the people are fearful it’s pretty easy to get them to do what they want them to.


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