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  1. Germ

    Germ Legendary Woodsman

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    Like stating Mask doesn't work with no data to back it up is foolish? Don't wear one then if you believe you are correct.

    What % of people are not wearing them in situations they "should". That's indoors and can't stay 6ft apart, what's your guess? 40% is mine +/- who the hell knows.
     
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    Sota Legendary Woodsman

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    I monitor the State of Minnesota dailey status numbers. Positive tests averaged 1000 or less per day in August before the mask mandate was installed. The last 2 weeks counts have averaged just over 1700 positive cases per day, I see the data, the numbers go up. Personal experience is good enough for me. Now explain where you got your 40%, my example was public data you can access the data by doing a google search of counties in Minnesota with Covid 19.
     
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    We got mask shamed by a parent in our private daycare group. My head hurts trying to understand the logic behind this... we literally drop our germ ridden "unmasked children" into a cesspool of germs (no disrespect to the daycare, it is a fact, I openly take my child to daycare understanding the risk).

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    "I still see a lot of parents picking their kids up, getting very close to staff members without wearing masks. Please everyone, let’s protect those who take care of our babies and wear those masks!"
     
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    How many of the 1700 positive cases were masks being worn correctly?

    What % of people are wearing masks or wearing them correctly? Do you believe it's 100%?

    That's why I want to see numbers broken down more than just 1700 cases on this day. It tells us nothing.

    1700 how many systematic, how many under the age of 30? How many at a school, How many were wearing a mask the were infected, how many wear wearing masks who spread it?

    My number goes from % people just don't care a and a study was done by the la-times where they observed people. That's in California where all those progressives live. I give people in the midwest more credit.

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    This is my issue because we don't know or folks in charge won't share. Does dropping a kid off and getting "near" someone a huge risk? My guess is it's not.

    We just played 12 games of basketball in Ohio, mask not required, and zero cases 8 teams with avg 10 kids per team.

    Has anyone seen where kids playing sports is spreading covid? I have not seen anything. From the limited data, we are seeing it's in closed areas where people are hanging out.
     
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    I generally avoid gatherings of people like bars and restaurants. I on occasion will run to a grocery store or home improvement stores. Down by where I work you can not go in a store without a mask on, so people are wearing masks where they are most exposed yet the numbers continue to climb.
     
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    They got their mask mandates, then it became “you aren’t doing it right”

    honestly the people complaining about not doing it effectively want there to be punishments for people not wearing masks. Not all but most of those people are in the camp of “Trump is the next hitler” but their own beliefs are exactly what hitler did. “It’s for your own good” we all know how well that turned out for the Jew’s!
     
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    Minnesota will shut down a bar or restaurant for not wearing a mask have never heard of them shutting down any other type of business for noncompliance.
     
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    Many companies are getting huge fines instead. Construction companies in particular.
     
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    Comparing mandated wearing of masks during a pandemic, to nazis killing 8 million Jews in concentration camps is idotic.
     
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    Im fine with your opinion.
     
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    I’m wearing a mask right now because I’m working with some outside contractors in our business, I’m just saying the government forcing people to do it is not the right way to handle it.
     
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    You just pass that on to the next customers bid.

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    Our safety auditor is working with a small construction company in rural MN that's dealing with $28,000 of fines due to 4 guys on a home building site for not wearing masks after the wall sheathing went up. $7,000 per guy!
     
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    Okay, why are they climbing?

    People are wearing masks where they are most exposed. interesting line. Where are people most exposed?

    Show me a breakdown from any state that gives us real numbers of when, where, and how covid was contracted then we can start making claims until we simply do not know.

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    Germ do you play dumb? Where are people most exposed? When they are in public like retail outlets, C stores, other public places.
     
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    how’s this any different? MSM is adamantly denying any spread from the peaceful protests.
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    Well, I am not so sure.

    What does the data state and where are people getting COVID these past two months, of those 1700 cases how many are happening in retail outlets, C stores, other public places?

    Does the minny data tell you that?
     
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    But But But, they beat MEEECHIGAN. 24 point underdogs even.
     
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    According to state we are at risk anytime we are outside of our homes or exposed to others that come in your home, that was what the lock down was for, after the lockdown was lifted we have to wear masks. The number of cases per day is higher than when we were not required to wear a mask.
     

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