I do feel somewhat better but it’s slow going. I asked about tick borne disease and she didn’t think it could be, I disagree with her and might request the test anyway.
Yikes, OKC just reported 495 new cases, a new one day record. I think it boils down to two things, testing availability and the younger set not really following any guidelines whatsoever. Whether they be protesting or practicing procreating their personal protection practices are pathetic.
Mr. World Genius Dr. Fauci today: “One of the problems we face in the United States is that unfortunately, there is a combination of an anti-science bias that people are — for reasons that sometimes are, you know, inconceivable and not understandable — they just don’t believe science and they don’t believe authority." Maybe because you asshats, and I mean you as well, lie and talk out of your asses constantly. Eat it.
A personal friend of mine in Florida said a ranch near him had a worker test positive, they tested 100 of the workers and 90 were positive without symptoms. They didn't even bother stopping working since it doesn't spread easily on surfaces and can only last hours on surfaces. Similar story in Minnesota at one of the meat packing plants where there was an outbreak in early April, one employee died (60's) while there are 1,600+ cases and 6 deaths total in the county as of yesterday. 3 long term care facilities in the county have had positive cases. Shouldn't we expect to see at least 45-60 deaths using a 3% death rate in that county?
This whole hysteria has been used by politicians and bureaucrats thing is we get sick of their bullshit and lies. Take the whole mask thing. I go further out in rural Minnesota where the covid cases are the lowest and nobody is wearing a mask. The virus like the moral decay in this country is a city problem.
Will subtract that from the 3200 they had yesterday. Florida will be shutdown again and Ii doubt nba plays there unless they get this under control. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
With a population of 20,000,000 I'm surprised .01% is still a talking point. 0.4% total infection rate of the population... shouldn't we be concerned about herd immunity? Quite frankly, people who are in good health don't really care anymore; they are seeing whats happening to the economy, they are seeing what's happening to the morale of the people and they are seeing through the BS of what this actually is. The young left, you know the ones that a month ago were shaming people for wanting go outside or go back to work have all but given up on Covid-19. Some friends I had from college are actually on facebook calling out white people to apologize for being white now. They literally care ZERO about Covid-19 anymore. If you can't see the hypocrisy in what is going on you are more blind than the bat this virus developed in.
I went and got tested for possible tick borne disease’s, they said it can take up to a week to get the results.
So, much like my compoundingof the numbers complaints early on and not stating current cases as their total case reporting, I have another one. With testing not being a problem anymore and virtually anyone able to be tested now regardless of reason, I would like new reporting changed as well. Rather than say 642 new cases yesterday/today, state it as 642 cases ××× of which were symptomatic testing. The WHO stated not long ago asymptomatic spread is quite rare, which is the entire reason we shut everything down in the forst place, and not as profound as once believed. If asymptomatic spread has nothing to be overly concerned about that differentiation would be somewhat valuable information. Does one still test positive during the incubation period even if no symptoms yet, but they do end up symptomatic after tested? Not sure I have ever heard that question posed or answered.
Oh I see it, what most don’t realize is this is a numbers games. Florida gets to doubling every 3 days in about 9-15 days they are borked. Simple because of the shear volume of cases they will have. In 3 days they get 6000+ and in 6 days 12,000+ the party is on in Florida. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
See, thatis assuming that these are new cases and not newly found cases. That's where a clarification between asymtpomatic and symptomatic come into play. Was the person tested just to be tested and what if that person is 12 days along in their asymptomatic infection and 2 days later test negative. They say if you test positive or were assumed positive to self isolate/quarantine for 14 days. So it is safe to say 14 days is the lifespan in most instances, correct? What about those on vents for 3-5 weeks or those that take a bit longer to fully recover, are they positive for that longer than 14 days stint or has the virus passed it's lifespan and is no longer present but the person is suffering from pneumonia or other non virus ailments created by the initial infection? So many questions I have since the testing has increased to levels wanted months ago. Does testing really tell us that much more?
Germ, come back with all your #'s when they are actual hospitalizations and deaths. I don't give a rats puttooty how many positives they record. I operate on the assumption everyone is a carrier and it's only my resposability to keep me safe.
That's exactly it. It has never, and I'll reemphasize the NEVER, been about how many infections there would be. It was always said millions in the US would be infected. That was never really debated, what was emphasized was the overwhelmed hospitals and millions of deaths(again, just in the US) as a result of nowhere to treat patients. This goes back to what originally changed my viewpoint, the Osterholm/Rogan segment posted early on here. The shut down was not about people becoming infected. It was about the amount of infections that would lead to hospitalizations, and hospitalizations that would lead to the need of ventilators. Which at that time we were lacking. That was all based on the notion that every age class and regardless of healthiness would succumb to this virus. Now we know that while infection rates are high, the net results are nowhere near the earlier unknowns of what was projected. We mostly know what demographics are highly succeptible and more importantly, not everyone who contracts it, even those most vulnerable, will suffer effects from it. Hospitals will not be overwhelmed, ventilators will not be depleted and American life will go on without the fear first instilled upon us. Total infections have just reached the initial death toll predictions. How many infections should we have now for that 2.2 million death toll prediction? I won't call the virus a hoax by any stretch, what was first envisioned can and likely will happen at some point in time, just not this one. The next one will have a lot more knowledge to go on based one this one, and it will also have a lot more "yeah, but remember Covid-19's" as well. It's human nature.
Did someone post something I missed? Hmmmm Let’s see where we are at 9-15 days Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
It depends on the numbers and the pace. If they double every 3 days. Today is around 3800 3 days 7600 6 days 15,200 9 days 30,400 12 days 60,800 15 days 121,600 Take day 15 and say 10% need hospital care that’s 12,000+ If the pace levels off then no, look at the charts of numbers most states were on the path of doubling That’s why it’s not like the flu, but if we do the model Switzerland did we have to keep the risky people at home, and I see a lot of fat people out and about. Most people I see without a mask, should be wearing one or staying home. I don’t disagree with you or anyone here. I just have little faith in the stupid people in this country. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
