Email from work this morning advising everyone that my office building was closed yesterday bc someone there has a presumptive positive case of the covid 19 virus. I went in one day this week. Yesterday for about 2 hours. Finished up the day remotely and of course washed my hands like hawk eye scrubbing for surgery before leaving. Sent from my SM-G960U using Bowhunting.com Forums mobile app
Here's the next thing. In Vermont, 4 of the first 12 positives cases are "out of state residents!" Looking for a better hospital or a guaranteed bed? Will the roads/borders get shut down?
Score! Went to the grocery store yesterday for the first time in two weeks. There was tp on the shelves. Not a lot but I got what I needed.
I'm no statistician, so I'm hoping someone smarter than me has some input on this. I keep seeing reports that compare the total number of cases in the US compared to total cases in Italy. These charts serve to create concern as they are very similar to one another, and we've all seen what Northern Italy looks like right now. My issue with these numbers is that you're comparing two countries with vastly different sizes - both in terms of overall population as well as physical size. Italy has about 60 million people, whereas the US has 325 million. Italy encompasses a total area of 116,000 square miles. The US is 3.8 million square miles. While they are great variances in population density around the country, we're still looking at things as a whole and sending up the alarms. So how is comparing total numbers of positive tests a proper comparison? Shouldn't we be looking at this from a percentage perspective? - % of total population that has tested positive - % of total tests that have produced positive results - # of positive cases per geographic area (square mile?) - # of positive cases compared to people per square mile (population density) It just seems to me that looking at total # of cases is a very misleading figure, yet that's all I keep seeing. Italy has a drastically higher number of cases in a much smaller region than the US. If anything, we should be worried about population centers like NY, LA and Chicago being Italy-like in terms of infection rates - not the entire country. Locking down small town USA just doesn't seem like the best use of our resources.
Wait till effective tests are rolled out and we get a real sense of total cases. Till then even a percentage breakdown is nothing more than misleading and mostly guess work. Sent from my SM-G960U using Bowhunting.com Forums mobile app
I agree with that as well. Since we're under-testing right now our real numbers are surely far above what is being published. As tests increase, so too will positive results. But is this all stuff to be massively concerned about? I suppose the jury is still out.
I'm not massively concerned about the virus but I am massively concerned about people who are massively concerned about the virus. Panic is a mfer. Can i say that? Sent from my SM-G960U using Bowhunting.com Forums mobile app
Minnesota has thousands of frozen samples that can not be tested so not sure how they are coming up with the numbers.
The thing is, regardless of testing, pretty much every country is going to be understating the actual number infected because there are so many people who get the virus and have only minor or even no symptoms so they never go to a doctor and their infection doesn't get included in the count. Unless they can adjust for that (which may not even be possible?) the real number of infected will be higher than any figures they put out no matter how effective the testing is. On the bright side, that also means the actual mortality rate will probably be lower than the official rate and the number of recovered will be higher than the official total.
I completely understand the underestimation of infected cases. My bigger question is why we keep looking at US numbers versus Italy numbers when the physical size of our countries and our populations and population densities are so drastically different. All it's doing is causing everyone to freak out that the US is going to end up looking like Northern Italy and making things worse. There has to be a better way to look at these numbers that will provide a more accurate comparsion. OR - maybe the government and the media don't want us to realize our numbers are lower than Italy as they will find it much more difficult to put these protective measures and lockdowns in place. The more afraid we are, the easier we are to control. Food for thought.
The media is loving this, and hyping this. I can not watch good morning America, especially the first 5 minutes, it is all panic and hysteria.
All I know is that if this lockdown last through the summer, Americans are going to have some of the prettiest lawns, cleanest and most organized workshops, and best maintained homes that we have ever had.
Also, another coworker went home sick today with 3 of 5 flu symptoms. Didn't ask what they are as while in the same building I've never talked to him or came into contact. Bad part is he was a trainee, I actually told my supervisor this morning they need to stop training people if they want the social distancing to be carried out. Put them on janitorial with the rest of the janitors who are going around with disinfectant cleaning all day every day.
Already on it! The lawn at the house in the city is fairly small, it will be all Dutch white clover just as soon as it dries out a little and I load up the Kabota to go till it. Plus, I'm going to "accidentally" put a logging chain around those boxwood shrubs my wife likes and pull them out. Boxwoods are only good for two things, smelling like cat piss and creating arguments for those that like them and those that know better..
I live in a small town maybe 20k and there was TP at Walmart. I bought 2 18 packs and then went around to ppl I know that haven't had any luck and are need. It went fast but hell I don't need it and it was only 40 bucks. There was no meat though but I still have 40 lbs of venison left. If it continues hunting season will start early for me. DEC be damned.
