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Whitetail deer attractant?

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by geauxtigers1421, Oct 18, 2011.

  1. geauxtigers1421

    geauxtigers1421 Weekend Warrior

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    I hunt on public property on a wildlife reservation in Louisiana. You are not aloud to bait deer with any food sources or attracts but I found kind of a loop whole while reading up... You are aloud to bait with anything natural to the area. This means acorns etc... I'm already hunting on the edge of two large oaks but they have not dropped much this year. There is plenty of signs of deer and hogs so I am going to put a large pile of acorns under the oak on the trail to see of they will stay in this area. The thing is, I was going to spray them with something like acorn bomb or something to attract the deer more. Do you know anything that works better that is not visible and is a liquid? And does something like corn syrup work?
     
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    Buck Jam! Honey acorn flavor should do the trick. it also comes in persimmon, corn, and apple flavor if that fits your fancy
     
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    You better look into that a little deeper. Are you sure they don't mean you can hunt over naturally dropping acorns?? Saying you can't bait, but it's OK to put a pile of acorns just doesn't sound right.
    I would bet that you are mistaken.

    AND, covering it with corn syrup or BuckJam is definitely BAITING! LOL
     
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    If acorns are natural and I am under an oak tree, they would never know if the acorns fell or not... It would all look normal, plus I'm not sure and they do have some stupid laws but I don't think it's illegal to just say you put all the acorns in a pile if they were there anyway
    I will look further into it though
     
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    You cannot put them into a pile, you cannot manipulate them at all. I would bet one of MY acorns!
     
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    Not sure about LA, but in MN there are specifications as to what "bait" exactly is. Grains, fruits, nuts, vegetables, and hay are illegal. Liquids, scents, salts, and minerals are perfectly fine.
     
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    it states on the site, "we prohibit possession or distribution of bait while in the fold and hunting with the aid of bait, including any grain, salt, minerals, or any non-naturally occurring food attractant on the refuge"
    From this, it sounds like PCOutfitters is right. It does not mention anything about liquids or scents. AND it says possession or baiting of non-natural-occurring food. It doesn't say anything about baiting with naturally-occurring food such as acorns. It also does not say anything about manipulating or moving them, it says you cannot remove or damage them which I will not be doing by putting them in a pile.
     
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    Dude, what does "non-naturally occurring food attractant" mean to you?!
    Whatever, gather up all the acorns you can find, cover them with syrup, and good luck
     
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    Let us know what the Judge says...
     
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    Misread that part... Luckily I made this post or I would be telling you what the judge said... But about the acorns,I still don't see a problem in that
     
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    Seriously? Corn syrup and Buckjam is not a scent, it's food, they eat it.
     
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    In the grey areas of law, the lawman usually wins
     
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    Where i hunt its legal to use buck jam among other certain things, so i apologize if that was misleading. I wasn't aware of LA law, and would seriously re consider your choices about even touching those acorns. IMO that's skating on really thin ice. best case scenario you get a deer. worst case scenario you get hundreds of dollars of fines and possibly your hunting privileges taken away for awhile. Your call.
     
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    yeah I misread that like I said above... Even if it weren't it wouldn't be allowed because it is an attractant. I was thinking if it wasn't a food it would be fine but then they would have said non-natural-foods and not attractant..... My bad on that one

    But about the acorn deal, they are naturally occurring so that part is fine. And I have heard of laws that say you cannot interact or change the area or whatever but on the site for this refuge it says you cannot remove or destroy and if I were to pile them up I wouldn't be doing anything wrong in that either... But that's just my opinion and how I took it... Let me know what you think so I don't go do something like I was about to... Not looking to get in trouble here
     
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    If your determined to use something to give you that "edge"... I'm not saying it's legal... but should be... made by the same company is called Buck Snort... it's nothing but scent, non-consumable, non-toxic attracting scent... I have no idea if it works... but It might save you a fine.

    http://www.huntmdown.com/buck_snort_lure.html
     
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    I think that would go under that food attractant category again... Not really sure but not gonna risk it
    Thanks though
     
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    I don't blame you ;)
     
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    Man you're stubborn :)
    I would call them and ask about the acorns. Again, I could almost guarantee that it's not legal to pile them up.
    If there are acorns around, even if not many, hunt there. The deer may come your way eating them.
    I doubt that putting them in a pile is gonna do you any good anyways
     
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    geauxtigers1421 Weekend Warrior

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    Yeah sorry about that haha
    And I'm just not gonna worry about it and leave it, the only way it would have really made any difference in piling them or not is if I could put something on them but that is out of the picture so I guess it wouldn't make a difference now!
    Thanks for putting all that out there though, even though I was stubborn about it... Wasn't looking at getting fined, I was just wanting to put some meat in the freezer but it's not worth taking the chances!
     
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    Piling acorns up and dumping them would be considered baiting.. Same difference as dumping a pile of corn on the edge of a corn field
     

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