If you have a whisker bisquit and shoot arrows with a blazer vane style fletching you gotta try this! Put an arrow in the rest as if nocking but dont nock it. Now pull the arrow through the rest. Try to be as level as possible. Pay attention to the friction of the fletching passing through the bisquit. Now if you have an arrow with 4 or 5 inch fletching do the same thing. Blazer vanes and a whisker bisquit seem to be a bad combo. They almost get caught up as they pass through. Not sure if this is an actual problem or not but I figured I bounce it off you guys and see what you think. I've noticed since I changed arrows my groups are much tighter. Could be coincidence. I dunno..
I trimmed my biscuit where the blazers pass through so there's less friction. Didn't really help my groups. So from my experience it didn't really make a difference. What I did notice is that a few pre-fletched blazers on my maximas came off after a few hundred shots. Didn't have this problem with other arrows with Blazers so I assume its just some arrows that are pre-fletched.
I think longer vanes = better groupings regardless of what kind of rest you are using. I have been shooting Blazers through a whisker biscuit for two seasons and have no problems. To prove your point though, check out this video. The whiskers are really violent during the pass through, but I still love my whisker biscuit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqJgaZxREf0
Shot the biscuit for a few years with blazers and didn't have a problem. I think Carolina Archery even recommends blazers with their product. Were you pulling it through with the cock feather up?
Blazers are perfect for the whisker biscuit. Softer vanes will wrinkle after a couple hundred shots or less then you get drag and noise. You are doing in slow motion what takes a millisecond to actually happen. If you saw a super slow motion video of a bow being shot, you'd wonder how we hit anything with one. Google it sometime, you will be amazed how violent it really is. The whisker biscuit is never going to be a super accurate rest, but for hunting its a great rest. You just aren't going to see them in the target archery world any time soon.
I have shot blazers thru a bisquit for the last three or four seasons without any problems. Not that the deer noticed anyway.
I started using a whisker biscuit last year with blazer vanes and did not seem to have a proble. I do shoot cock up so don't know if that makes a difference or not, but it seems fine to me.
As far as I know they are designed to be shot cock up. The black whiskers are firmer and dont flex as much as the browns. I don't think the black part is made for a fletching to pass through. I could be wrong but thats how i've understood it. So has anyone actually pulled 2 arrows through there bisquit or what?
I've been shooting blazers through my whisker biskit for about 5 years now and havnt had any problems, but my brother on the other hand, his whisker biskit was pulling/cutting the blazer veins. It was weird, but the way his "whiskers" were all bent and chewed up. Maybe he got a bad one out of the batch but he went away from the whisker biskit so I think its to each their own!! Good luck!!
You have it right Kyle. The reson for shooting cock feather up is to bypass the stiffer bristles which are darker in color, which support the arrow weight at the 6 o'clock position.
Im all for the whisker bisquit. It's simple and effective. I just noticed that blazer vanes get caught up alot more than 4 or 5" fletching. Thought Id share that and let other people see it for themselves and be aware of it. Whether its important or not I dunno.
The blazers have less surface area, which equates to less drag. Drag remains constant regardless of speed, so pulling an arrow slowly tends to exaggerate the effect. Having said that, I love my Apache rest.
Loved the whisker, no issues. Tried the Hostage rest, similar to the whisker, and no issues with that either. I shoot blazers also.
Used the whisker bisquit for one year and could not shoot it very well. Had a friend tell me the the black drag marks on the vanes were actually proof of the whiskers grabbing the vanes and throwing the shot off. Then I watched a similar video to the one posted above. Shortly thereafter I went out and bought a dropaway and havent turned back. Not sure if he new what he was talking about but as they say- Shoot what you feel comfortable with and confident in.
It's simple math. At any one moment of the pass through, there is less surface area of the longer, thinner vanes actually in the biscuit, so less noticeable friction. The Blazer style vanes being wider but shorter will have far more surface area in the biscuit, so more friction. The only variable is the amount of vane in the biscuit, not the overall length remaining which is not in contact with the bristles. Make sense?
The black marks were because your rest was tuned improperly - NOT because of the design. Once you get a WB tuned correctly, you will not have the marks on your vanes. My whole family shoots blazers & WB's with no issues at all.
I shot a biscuit for two years I loved it even though it was rough on my flethes they're fool proof. Having said that I did get 25 more fps from my bow when I switched to a QAD drop away
