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Whisker Biscuit VS Drop Away

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by newyork103, Jul 25, 2015.

  1. Joe p

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    Whisker biscuit very simple and effective but has its cons it will eat up fletching if you shot a lot and an arrow rest should not come in contact with your arrow once fired which the biscuit does which affects accura see
     
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    Friction vs. Minimal friction
     
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    Has anyone had any luck replacing a pulled cable on a QAD or Rip Cord....say out in the field? without a draw board?
     
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    The amount of friction is moot point in that it repeatable every shot WB. and if you talking about slowing the arrow down, it maybe slower by whole 2 fps. So on a 330 rated IBO that equates to less the a .01 % reduction in speed...want to try again?
     
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    Not in the field but I have replaced QAD pull cables without a draw board. I install, or have the string maker install, serving for the pull cable. I use a half hitch knot to secure the QAD pull cable to the bow cable. Then I just draw and set it so it comes up the last inch. I have never had an issue with timing on a QAD. The only tool I need is the appropriate allen wrench which is in my pack with a length of cord just in case.
     
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    A WB did tear up my fletchings, I switched to the Octane Hostage Pro which is a variation of a WB, and its been great. Put a thousand shots thru and brushes not worn out. No fletching contact, no chance of drop away failure...I always laugh when I see someone holding the arrow on their drop-away with their index finger.
     
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    I made fun of WB for years...until I tried one after shooting every other kind out there. Every bow in our house now have WB. Deadly accurate, consistent, reliable, Very fast loading for spot/stalking in thick brush. I shoot my bow nearly every single day and have never had a damaged vane or issue...almost 4 years of use on it. I do recommend blazer vanes as that is what I've always had.

    But not for everyone - only choose what gives you the most confidence. Love this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbefCoY71Os
     
  8. No.6Hunter

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    Friction and arrow contact a moot point? Isnt that the point of buying a drop away?

    You brought up speed so too so....how about you try again
     
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    Setting them up without a draw board is imprecise at best. Trying to thread the cord via the small front hole and without any additional tools out in the field is at best a pain in the ***, and at work sometimes not possible.


    Drop away work well when the work, however they fail at much higher rate the a WB. Further more I have seen so many abortions in their set up from the average Joe hunter that I believe most would be better served with a set it and for get type rest like WB.


    Whenever I am packing in,or flying in I always have a WB set and ready to go in the advent of drop away failure, I have seen enough failures to know that its a possibility that needs to be addressed before hand.......the only time i was used was when a camp mate HD wouldn't drop and we replaced it with my spare WB.
     
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    It is a moot point with the WB because you repeat the same friction and contact on each and every shot. That a pretty simple concept that been used successful since we been placing arrows on shelves of bows....
    And a 2 FPS speed reduction or even 5 fps is meaningless especially when it comes with ease of use, longevity, lack of moving parts and general reliability.
     
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    I shot a drop away for years... loved it.. went out one day last season and had chord break... rendering bow useless..
    That made me nervous so I went back to a WB. Still shooting the same... no noticeable change in speed or accuracy. I still shoot feathers rather than vanes as well.
     
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    I loved the WB but now I shoot a qad and love it more... I didn't really have a problem with the WB ever but it will take 10 to 15 feet a sec time off... if your planning on the wb there is a trick to keep it nice I used armaroll spray and it kept my whiskers really nice also helped my flectches pass through. Heard that trick from a local archery shop but if u have the money go for the qad... and just make sure u time it perfectly for best performance and shot
     
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    Same friction and contact on every shot IMO is debatable, especially when you have all those hairs holding the arrow in place. Those hairs will move and will alter your shot.

    I switched from the WB when it started fraying apart and freezing on me, Only problem I have ever had with a drop away is the arrow falling out of the cradle.
     
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    I've been using a wb for 4 years now and I shoot a lot of arrows. A lot, there is no whisker tangle or vane damage. I want a drop away only because I've extended my range shooting and past 40 yards I think it may effect group tightness
     
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    If you straight fletch you can use a whisker buscuit without a whole lot of wear. I still recommend the trophy taker smackdown pro.
     
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    Biscuits are for gravy (or tea). Drop-aways are for bowhunting. :poke:
     
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    If you buy a good drop away rest and it is setup properly, it is hands down better than a wb. Drop aways don't effect accuracy and they don't slow your arrow down.
     
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    It comes to down to personal preference. I have shot drop away style rests and whisker biscuits. I prefer the full containment of the WB, particularly when hunting spot and stalk. Also, less moving parts, less to break and go wrong. I put blazers on my arrows instead of regular vanes. The extra durability will prevent the fletching from coming off. As for the speed difference the WB might slow your arrow speed 2-3 FPS, I tested mine against an identical bow with a Ripcord drop away.The speed loss is a moot point. I have never had my WB freeze on me.

    But the best thing to do is to test both on your bow and choose what suits you best. If it does not work for you then no one else's opinion matters. Try both, pick the one you feel the most confident using.
     
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    If you use WB, you MUST use smaller straight vane. Blazer Vanes work excellent.
    Anything but that and there will be a ton a fletching rub.
    But as a bow owner, you have to figure that part out.
     
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    I'm French tuning my bow right now.
    I'm hitting a 3/4 nylon strap out to 50 yrds.
    I still have to set my 60 - shooting indoors.

    cantexian was right, 3-5 FPS slower is all you will have unless you are shooting giant fletchings that are rubbing like crazy.
    You can lead a horse to water - but the horse has to drink.

    85% of the shooters can't shoot as good as their rest anyway. All about what you want on your bow.

    On to the next thread...
     

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