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Whisker Biscuit slows down arrows?

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by scottygrape, Jul 17, 2012.

  1. scottygrape

    scottygrape Weekend Warrior

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    Is it rue that a wisker biscuit will slow down your arrow, wreck your fletchings and hurt your accuracy?
     
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    It's not "rue" at all. ;) I wondered about the same thing before buying a new one for my bow. I honestly haven't done a comparison through a chrono between the fps of an arrow shot through a whisker buscuit and an arrow shot through a drop away rest, but all I've found on hunting threads is that guys have lost 2 or 3 fps. Not enough to affect anything. I know for sure they can put a hurtin on feathers, but I shoot blazer vanes now and the biscuit doesn't give me any trouble at all. As far as accuracy, there's some guys that sware they shot way better after getting rid of their whisker biscuit. I group 2 inches at 30 yards, idk if I would want to get better than that lol(arrows aren't cheap). I shoot great with mine, and I don't see myself switching anytime soon. As long as your bow is tuned the biscuit will work great for ya. Hope this helped.
     
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    I had a whisker biscuit once...........I put some butter and jelly on it and man, I could barely swallow that thing and it tasted like **** !!!!!!!!!!
    I'm kidding but I did shoot with one for a while (it came on my "ready to hunt" PSE Brute X)
    I upgraded to a Trophy Ridge Revolution and feel like I'm more accurate at further distances. Sure 20-30yds it may not affect accuracy but when you're launching an arrow 45+ yards...............trust me, you'd rather not have ANYTHING touching those fletchings. I'm new to bowhunting so I may not know what I'm talking about. I'm sure you'll collect some more opinions in this thread. Maybe buy a drop rest and do your own testing to truly see what feels better for you.
     
  4. RoyC

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    I did not try the biscuit when I bought my new bow so I can't comment with experience on the difference between that and a drop away rest but based on my past shooting, I wanted as little contact with the arrow and fletchings as possible.
     
  5. scottygrape

    scottygrape Weekend Warrior

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    Would like a 360 aputure rest be good? and what kind of a stabilizer do you guys recommend?
     
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    DucksUnlimitedHunter27 Weekend Warrior

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    I think anything that touches your arrow after the shot slows it down. I like drop down but that is my personal preference. Try a concealed drop away.

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    SouthDakotaHunter Die Hard Bowhunter

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    WB will only slow down arrows a few FPS on average, so that shouldn't be a concern. Far as the rest being hard on vanes, that is somewhat true - though most people have pretty good luck with a heartier vane - such as a 2" blazer (that's what I would recommend if your shooting a WB). Accuracy is debatable. In theory, it's not really more or less accurate than many other rests. IMO - based on the design of the rest (how it works), it doesn't do as good of job hiding imperfections in our tuning, shooting form, etc. - I believe that's why you see so many archers make comments that they feel they are more accurate with say a drop away at longer distances than a WB style rest (myself included).

    It's an excellent hunting rest. Wouldn't be scared to run with it until you feel the desire to try something else...
     
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    BigUTMuleys Weekend Warrior

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    I have shot WB's on my old bow and i really liked it. I have been considering changing to the WB on my elite.
     
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    For me the pros out weight the cons. For hunting it's trouble free and always reliable. It's all I use.
     
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    I have a Octane hostage pro rest for sale 50$ + shipping. Pritty much brand new ( i put new bristles on ).
    I liked it better then the reg WB, you get better groups with it.
     
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    Just like Afflicted said. I do a lot of spot and stalk, so everything on my bow is for durability and ease of use and you don't get anymore rugged and easy to use than a good WB. It's just one less thing that can break or go wrong out in the woods. As far as long range accuracy, I shoot 4inch groupings at 50 yards with a WB rest, so I haven't experienced any negative results with long shots yet.
     
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    Anytime you have a moving object on a stationary object, you will have friction that will slow the moving object down. Is it a substantial amount? I doubt it. I suppose eventually it would affect the fletchings too with the passing through the WB.
     
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    agreed
     
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    I have a wb now, have had octane in the past. Shoot 2 blazers and they are holding fine. No real drop in speed and I like that it fully contanes arrow. One less thing to worry about 25 up a tree. LOL
     
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    I have used the WB since they first came out and continue to do so. It is absolutely trouble free and no moving parts to malfunction. I have never had it ruin fletching and it is easy to tune. I recommend them to anyone that asks.
     
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    Ive been hunting for only 4 years now but i have done a bit of research on this topic as i have been contimplating getting rid of my WB. The WB does slow down the arrow but as for how fast is up to the fletchings used. With the 3 inchers, there is typicaly more surface area that is touched by the WB and usually has between 2-3 feet drop in fps. when using the 3 inch feather that can have a 4-5 fps drop effect due to the feather fibers having to bend when sent through the biscut, its still not going to affect the average kill shot much. the best results are usually the blazers. the wb will slow it down but at around 1-2 fps. So IMO, the wb does not kill the overall Kenetic energy so much that a 30 yard shot wont pass through. I have one still on my PSE Madness and had a passthrough at 47 yards on a mature doe last year. Now onto the drop aways. there is a mental block that some people have that make using a drop rest the only way. But be cautious. with IBOS getting faster and faster, certain drop aways can start to impact the arrow stricktly because the rest cant fall away fast enough for the bow. I have also seen mechanical malfuntions and more user errors when using a drop away than a WB. either the rest didnt fall away, didnt fall away fast enough, or the shooter wasnt paying attention when pulling back and the arrow wasnt cought buy the rest and fell out. also (another opinion) more moving parts means more can go wrong. As for the 360's i need to read up on them but it seems that they are the best of both worlds. good luck with your decision and remember to get what feels right to you.
     
  18. SharpEyeSam

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    I totally agree.
     
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    Will truely say that maybe a few feet per second depending on the vanes you are using. Keep in mind that 40lbs will kill a deer. I personally haven't had an arrow wrecked. Best to use Blazer vanes. As for as accuracy, no matter if you have the biscuit set up right, you still have to shoot the bow.
     
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    I used one for about 5 years, and ditched it when I upgraded my bow. I shot well with it, but there were some things I didn't like. With MY arrows, there was noise on the draw. I had a couple deer spook because of this. I had the bristles freeze several times during late season hunts, and if I had any damage to a vane, it was quickly destroyed.
     

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