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Which handgun to buy???

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  1. LittleChief

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    I've been looking at getting a new handgun for a long time. I know that what I want is a semi-auto 10mm.

    After a lot of looking I've narrowed it down to either a Colt Delta Elite 1911 or a Sig Sauer P220-10 Match Elite.

    Which one would you get if it were you?
     
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    Don’t know much about Colt but you can’t go wrong with a Sig. P220 has been my duty sidearm for 2 decades, by choice.
     
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    I carried a Colt 1911 45ACP on duty as a younger sailor from '81 to '85. Outstanding, almost idiot proof sidearm.

    I'm totally unfamiliar with Sig Sauer though.

    Still, as good looking as a 1911 is, that Sig is a beautiful weapon.
     
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    Can't go wrong with either one.
    Both would be a great choice. Put them in your hand and see which one fits you best.
     
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    Sounds like you're telling me how to shop for a bow. :lol:

    I agree with you in that I can't go wrong with either choice.

    I lean towards Colt because it's an American company but that Sig is a gorgeous weapon.
     
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    Major major difference in a 220 trigger than a 1911. You may hate the 220 trigger. I haven't shot a 220; but I had a 229 w DAK and it was GARBAGE. The spring felt like an old bed spring.

    I've also shot a 226 D/S trigger and it wasn't near as bad as the DAK. I do like the new P320 trigger, but thats striker fired so more like a Glock.
     
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    I would try both before I bought one. That being said I have a few Sigs and I'm a big fan.
     
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    A military man that carried a 1911 has to ask?
     
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    Look up the Sig model I posted and you'll understand.
     
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    After a night of homework and discussion with some friends I've made my decision. I'll go with the Sig Sauer P220-10 Match Elite Kryptek.

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    They're both good looking guns, altho IMO the 220 with the reverse titanium finish is GORGEOUS. Plus I admit I like a rail system. Capacity is the same in both, so that's a wash.

    Sig pros:
    DA/SA so you don't "have" to cock it to fire
    220 is a proven design w/ over 40 years in production and used by military and police forces

    Colt pros:
    1911. Duh. Over 100 years of "do not F with me" reputation
    Slightly less expensive
    Better trigger

    I don't care how good the double/single action trigger is on the Sig, it's still a D/S. That first pull is 10# and every one after is what, 6 or 7? Takes a lot of shooting to get used to.

    That being said, I prefer to carry a gun with no safety so if it's going to be a carry weapon at all I'd go SIG. Sure that first pull is a long haul but in a self defense situation you won't notice and won't have to worry about dropping the safety first and/or cocking.

    Finally, I'm all about people carrying what they are comfortable with. At the end of the day what's most important is that you get home safe; and with that in mind being competent, comfortable and confident in your carry gun are the most important factors when choosing a side arm for protection. However, should you be forced into a self defense situation I promise you your $1400 piece of art is going to be seized by the police even if you are 100% in the right.

    Sure it will most likely get returned eventually, but the wheels of justice turn slowly and that gun could be sitting in an evidence drawer for several years before it makes its way back to you. Given that, I'd never carry anything costing over $500. Just something to think about- doesn't mean I don't have a few safe queens; but they don't get conceal carried.
     
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    I started my last post then got sidetracked for a while before I finished, see you posted in between.

    That is quite possibly one of the sexiest pistols I've ever seen. Great choice!
     
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    Well, this gun is a bit large and heavy for an everyday carry weapon anyway. :)

    I'd carry it in a vehicle on a road trip, but what I'm really buying this for is to carry while hunting and possibly even use for hunting on occasion. In the unlikely event I actually had to use it to save my life or someone else's life, I could live with losing it. $1400 is a small price to pay for getting to stay alive.

    I really liked the Colt Delta Elite, but the main reason I didn't get it is because it doesn't have a fully supported chamber. Some of the hotter 10mm loads cause the unsupported brass to mushroom out and sometimes even rupture, which could really ruin your day.

    Of course, as long as you stick to normal factory loads that wouldn't be an issue, but in the event I wanted to hunt with it I'd be checking out those hotter rounds.

    Then again, as good looking as the Delta Elite is, this Sig is just gorgeous.
     
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    As the victim of a kaboom myself, I one hundred percent agree with you on that!
     
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    Do you own other handguns? Would this be your first? What do you intend to use it for?
     
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    Hey Matt.

    This will actually be the first handgun that I've actually owned, but I'm definitely no stranger to handgun shooting. I’ve done a lot of handgun shooting with everything from a 22 to the teeth-rattling S&W 500. I don't really care to shoot the 500 again.

    I've never conceal-carried (never felt the need to) and I have no illusions that this is a gun for that. I intend this to be a multi-purpose weapon. It will come in handy for the home, but I don't really “need” it there. With a pack of six dogs including Great Pyrenees, I would have plenty of time to get to a long gun for home defense. Still, it’ll be nice to have around.

    I mostly want it to pack with me while bow hunting. I’ve never really needed one where I hunt in Missouri, Tennessee, Arkansas and Kentucky. Where I hunt the 10mm might be overkill, but I’m looking at expanding my hunting range and want something capable of stopping anything I encounter.

    If I liked revolvers there would be many more choices, but I don't care for shooting them.

    Is it the “best” gun for my purpose? Maybe not, but this one should cover every purpose I can think of unless I decide I want to start carrying on a daily basis.
     
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    I'll add that I may actually take this one hunting during gun season. :)
     
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    I didn't see that you had already selected when I posted. If choosing between the two, I'd have picked the sig as well for the intended purpose. I have a 1911 and love it, but it's a big/heavy handgun and too pretty to carry in the woods in my opinion.

    I'd also consider a Glock 20 or 29 if I were you and wanted 10mm. People either love or hate Glocks, but it's all I carry these days because I've become so accustomed to them. They aren't sexy but they always go bang and all of mine have been very accurate.
     
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    I know a ton of people who love their Glocks, but I've never really been a fan. The first handgun I ever shot was an old Colt 1911 45ACP and that was when I was a young sailor. I actually earned my expert pistol shot medal with that model. I've been a huge fan of the 1911 fit, feel and design ever since.

    I was really torn between these two at first. I really wanted the Colt but like I said above, the Colt Delta Elite doesn't have a fully supported chamber. If I do end up either hunting with it or carrying it as defense against larger animals, I'll be checking into loads more powerful than factory loads and that is where you can run into serious problems with a gun that leaves part of the brass unsupported.

    Oh, I could have the Colt modified, but I don't want to have to spend another $500 to fix a brand new gun that's already expensive.
     
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    it's going to be an awesome black bear/hog gun. Throw a little red dot on it and tear it up!
     
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