Hey I have a Bowtech Assassin with a 55lb Draw Weight. I am currently using Beman 400 ICS with a slick trick razortrick 100gr broadhead. I mainly hunt Whitetails and was wondering what would be the best arrow weight and arrow brand for my setup. I also would like to keep it under $100 for a 12 pack. I am also thinking of using lighted nocks this year. Which brand is the most economical and has good quality. Thanks Very Much
I was also using the beman 400 ICS hunter arrows. I just made the switch to the easton axis 400's and love them. With only drawing back 55LB's then you should be able to use the Easton Axis 500's or the Easton Bloodline 500's which would give you a light arrow so you can add the lighted nock and still keep your arrow lighter. With 55LB you should be in the 340-360 grain arrow IMO.
I use the analogy of a boxer or martial artist ...a jab (light setup) is quick yet its power (KE) is timid hence why one needs many to inflict the damage necessary to down the opponent ..A power punch (heavier setup) on the other hand may be slightly slower but once the connection has been made the KE exerted is profound producing a massive knockout!! We must remember we really only have maybe one chance at the shot of a lifetime and we really want pass throughs for quicker kills and better blood trials ..I would not use anything lighter than 400 grains (I use 425 - 450 grn with a setup shooting 245fps) .... I have watched youtube hunts where the animal has been 20 - 30yrds shots have been on the money yet the arrow is sticking out the same side it was shot from ..to me my assumption is that the hunter had a light arrow setup and not having the punching power to blow right through ...but that is just my opinion ") I am a Kiwi hunter and we are spot and stalk hunters and at most times our bush is thick, hilly and extremely mountainess (in some places) so out shots vary depending on where we have stalked the animal too ... All in all I find nothing wrong with the setup you have Beman ICS 400s they are inexpensive and believe me they ain't **** ...if anything doe's go wrong I don't blame my equipment I blame my poor judgement and form ..Its just awesome that we enjoy the thrill of the hunt not matter how we do it ...") P.S Today there is this thing about the need for speed ..and yet the fore fathers of archery and those who are more current the likes of the Ted Nugents, Fred Bears, Chuck Adams where harvesting animals with form, excellent shot choice with setups that were slow compared to todays bows ...cheers
I don't know your draw length, but I do know your arrow is really light, especially up front. This is what I would do. 1) If you like the Beman's ( I do) then I would get 12, Beman 400 ICS Camo Hunter Arrows. 2) Add a 50 grain brass insert to the front (take it to a pro-shop or ask the online company to add it) 3) Use a 125 grain COC fixed blade broadhead like this... http://www.bowhunting.com/shopping/Products/Nap-Hellrazor-125__70411.aspx or http://www.bowhunting.com/shopping/Products/Razortrick-125-Gr-1-18-Broadhead__4550.aspx That should up your total arrow weight by 100 grains or so, 75 grains of which would be added up front, thereby making your arrow penetrate much better. Your bow should quiet down as well.
I shoot Easton Axis N-Fused 500, 27.5" long, 100 gr. point (365 grains). I also shoot Easton Axis N-Fused 400, 27.5" long, 85 gr. point (375 grains). 100 grain point on the 400's would give you more FOC and 390 grains. Price on eBay is usually around $100-$110 per dozen.....http://www.eastonarchery.com/arrows/axis/0/2
IMHO this is exactly what NOT to do. The lighter the poundage you shoot, the heavier the arrow you need. Brett (virginiashadow) hit the nail on the head. Add more weight, particularly up front.
I am looking at the Gold Tip Expedition Hunter With Everything it would weigh around 380gr Would this be a good option or should I add a weight in the front
It will work. But it could be a lot better, I think. I would add more weight. What I would do with those arrows... Not sure what your DL is but i'll give you an arrow length of 28". Add or subtract 8.2gr per inch to give yourself and accurate representation. Expedition 5575@28" 125gr head 50gr insert weight. Total weight= 443gr with a 17% FOC. PENETRATION http://www.goldtip.com/build-arrow/...bid=0&pid=30&pow=0&iow=0&iid=39&wow=0&wid=104
Thanks I have one more question would this set up be all right if I had a 60lb draw weight I am hoping to increase my draw weight before next season but want to know if this will be alright. Thanks again
Weight vs. speed is always going to be argued. I have posted this same debate on this forum and i had half tell me weight and half tell me speed. The truth is that you can get great KE by using either method. I shoot a 2011 PSE Bowmadness with a 28"draw @ 70lb. I shoot the the Easton Axis 400 with a 75 grain broad head with the total weight of my arrow being 338 grains. I shoot this arrow at 307 fps putting my KE at 71. That is enough KE to hunt anything I would ever come across including any Large game and which deer are considered medium game so i would say that i have enough KE. KIWI with both of our setups I have more KE then you do shooting the lighter arrow. My proshop did my chronograph for me and i asked them about KE and they referred me to this wedsite. http://bowsite.com/bowsite/features/practical_bowhunter/penetration/index.cfm
The Bowtech assassin has similar specs to my bow should i would assume it would shoot around the same speeds give or take a few FPS
I"m not going to get into an argument with you about arrow weight. Simply because it's redundant, I'm hungover, and judging by your current demeanor, you will not listen nor care to learn. KE does not equal penetration. Please do more research before you begin preaching to a very rehearsed community.
I know that it is all about momentum. I was just replying to kiwi's earlier post about ke which was false. I was just stating that if ke Is what you're going for then you can get it both ways. But I will ask this though, if a deer is reacting to sound wouldn't you want a faster arrow?
There is no way to make a bow fast enough to beat the reaction time of a deer. But, there are ways to make a bow quiet so there is less for the dear to react too.
