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Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by Yes, Aug 21, 2013.

  1. BACKSTRAPASSASSIN

    BACKSTRAPASSASSIN Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Why would a top company in the industry bring in 4 people and restructure based on their opinions alone...im sure mathews has better ways of gathering feedback from consumers....it comes down to one thing....they want people who believe in their product to sell their products period....not someone whos going to talk them down publicly because 4 guys didnt like their bows

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  2. Treestandsniper

    Treestandsniper Die Hard Bowhunter

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    My pro shop doesn't carry Mathews, so I wasn't aware that their market price had eroded relative to the competition. 7 years ago a Mathews bow cost 20-30 percent more than a BT PSE or Hoyt. Now after reading the test (thanks to the link) it seems the top of the line bows are all evenly priced.

    Is the the market for bows efficient? The answer has to be yes, as some former big players (High Country and Martin come to mind) have languished due to quality or technology concerns. If the Mathews' was a superior bow, history dictates that it would be priced accordingly. "Catch us if you can"...if price is any indication, it would seem they done been caught.

    Finally, if Mathews weren't so exclusive in awarding dealerships, they would have no reason to drop Hinton. I would give Hinton my business if I lived in his region.
     
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  3. Joe Bear

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    If the retailers are honest and trustworthy and it appears that is the case. This could benefit you in the long run. Good job.
     
  4. Cledus

    Cledus Die Hard Bowhunter

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    After reading the article in its entirety Hinton not only gave his unbiased opinion, he seemingly made shots toward Mathews.. I.e. "If you're gonna shoot something this slow, shoot the Elite Answer"

    He was asking for it, for sure. And that's coming from a Bowtech fan boy.
     
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    So what some of you are saying, is that Mathews or any manufacturer in this situation should have dumped him? Dumped him for giving an honest review, for having integrity and not just spewing the Mathews love, regardless of whether they were the best bow or not. Better to be a crooked company man, than an honest free thinking man? Boy some of you are brain washed.
     
  6. Tony

    Tony Legendary Woodsman

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    Haters are brainwashed too, my friend.... His review was SUBJECTIVE...
     
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    SLINGnMISS Weekend Warrior

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    Wow you really don't understand this. He insulted the bow and said to buy a different one in a national publication. Why would they continue to have a man who said that rep their bows
     
  8. CoveyMaster

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    Lol, yeah that comment was pretty hard core and wholly unnecissary to get a point across.

    Well like I said before, he doesn't have to sell what he considers a midgrade bow and Mathews no longer has to deal with a dealer that doesn't like their product. I happen to agree with the guy's opinion after shooting a few Mathews bows but he should have expected Mathews to pull their dealership from him for it. His conclusion (theirs) about the Experience is also fairly widely agreed upon, everyone I have talked to or reviewed it online that had one, loved it. Mathews doesn't make a bad bow, don't get me wrong butthe market is a competitive beast these days. Far more so than it was in the previous decade. All the Bow companies are going to have a hard time with top of the line bows at this point because there really isn't much between them. With formerly low grade bow companies innovation and high speed bows currently marketed like PSE and Bowtech's 350-360+ fps bows...the old standards like Mathews and Hoyt are going to have to work hard to maintain their status.
     
  9. seanmoe

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    Anyone think of the possibility that the results were possibly rigged for another bow company? It's a possibility right? It's hard to know what to believe when you hear ads and there are all types of advertising. Anyway we all have the opportunity to shoot our bows before we buy them and buy what we like.
     
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    I expect everyone had that thought cross their mind. Thats why these magazine test articles are usually an entertaining read but generally carry very little weight with most of us that read them. Each products fans are going to totally disregard anything they disagree with anyway.
     
  11. Whitetail

    Whitetail Die Hard Bowhunter

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    If you ask me he had issues in the past. He knew Mathews was going to drop him him so he went out with a bang.
     
  12. foothill hunter

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    Perhaps Mathews might do an in-house comparison and use this information to improve their own product rather than punish the tailor who showed them the emporor had no clothes ....... self evaluation usually follows public humiliation.....
     
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    yes they did but should'nt they consider their shortcomings rather than punish someone being honest?
     
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    Treestandsniper Die Hard Bowhunter

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    That is possible, but why not take him at face value? That's alot of supposition on your part.
     
  15. Cledus

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    What most of you guys are missing is that Hinton not only rated their bows as bottom of the pack, he openly suggested a different companies bow while talking about theirs. Anyone who works in a retailing position knows you can't play favorite when it comes to advertising to customers.

    As far as the Experience vs. Creed/Chill goes, they were my top choices when I got my new bow, and I planned on getting the Creed. I didn't really care about speed (because my short DL and low weight reduces it anywho) and noise was really pretty close after being dressed, leaving to things to be my deciding factor:
    1. Bowtech has/had a slimmer grip, which I prefer.
    2. I felt less vibration from the Experience.

    Both are wonderful bows, and I'd shoot either in a heartbeat.
     
  16. wisbh

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    So I have to ask, when we go to buy a new bow do we get the best bow out there for the money or do we buy brand specific because we have a bunch of shirts and hats and bumper stickers that have that brand on them and we don't want to start our clothes collection over? Yes you would look like a wingnut shooting a PSE while wearing an Hoyt hat in front of your friends. Or are we being sponsored or making money in any way by shooting that brand? Just sayin. I don't know what this guy was thinking when he made the comment cutting down the Mathews but it makes me think. I would never expect the local Chevy dealer to say bad things about the Chevy but if he did I would think there would be some value behind it. Truth is all the bows tested don't have a nickels difference between them. It's all about what gives you that funny feeling when you shoot it like the one you get from your wife or girlfriend on a Saturday night. Happy hunting!
     
  17. Schultzy

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    You compound shooters are some sensitive SOB's. Damn.
     
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    Fitz Legendary Woodsman

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    :lmao:
     
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    :lol:

    That was great!
     
  20. JamesxCreedx

    JamesxCreedx Weekend Warrior

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    I dont see how the creed is really all that slow. Im shooting roughly 400 grain arrow 293fps. Ill take the smoothness all day
     

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