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what do you think about our sports market?

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by bigbuckdown, Apr 6, 2010.

  1. bigbuckdown

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    I'm interested in what you personally think of the pricing of archery equipment extremely too high? you are alright with the prices? or you wont buy a bow for 3 or 4 yrs til the bows price goes down? who gives you the best bow at the lowest price? who thinks they are selling you gold? lol they all do! but seriously who charges way to much? let me know what you think!
     
  2. rybo

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    Bows can be bought for cheap, and they can be bought for a truck load of money. It's up to the individual to decide. Every business is out to make money and charges the most they can that still allows them to sell thier product. Archery/hunting is no different. If people pay it, they will keep charging that price.
     
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    There is 1,001 products from low to high in nearly every product catagory out there. If you can't find something in your price range, you aren't looking in the right place.

    I think of all the market's out there, the Archery industry is one of the most interesting! We have a ton of cool (and some crap) products to choose from. Capitalism at work!
     
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    OHbowhntr Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I don't buy bows new very often, I buy used stuff a fair amount of the time, shoot them for a while, and then sell them to get a different toy. I currently have a few that I have for sale. All for about what I paid for them, and all as good if not better than when I bought them. I can't get myself to put down $800 for a bow when if I wait 6-9 months, I can get that same bow for $600.....:confused:
     
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    im gonna shoot with my bow until it does me wrong.... no matter what technology comes out... only chance im getting an upgrade is if i have an outstate hunt planned and i need a back-up.

    as far as price i dont mind them at all.... sure there is some crazy stuff out there but i just wont buy it. pleanty of things in my price range that i CAN afford
     
  6. bigbuckdown

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    i personally wont give over $250.00 for a bow.I think that alot of bows are over-priced and not worth the money they sale 4.that being said I am glad most of that money that the company intakes from sales is contributed to american jobs and workers
     
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    Gr8atta2d Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Maybe I know a bit too much about the supply chain but bows are way, over priced.
    Broadheads and Arrows are also over the top..every broadhead isn't a 10$ head, and arrows are made for pennies, each!
     
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    I paid 200.00 for a target bow in 1969.
     
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    Supply is the cheap part.....marketing is the expensive part.
     
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    Gr8atta2d Die Hard Bowhunter

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    No I kinda disagree here....the marketing creates the price not vice versa.

    If we convince (pay) Waddell to use it...the mignons will pay the price we ask!
     
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    i think that the prices are a bit high, but if i was them id get what i could just as ppl have stated....like field of dreams " if you build it they will come".. and ppl always want the newest biggest baddest thing on the market.


    with that being said i just got a new bow and got it about 300 cheaper than the new bow buy shopping around and looking online... being fairly new to the sport i will shoot this bow for a few years (3-4) or maybe longer depending on how it does over time and then i will look to buy a new bow at a price i can afford to allow me to always have a backup bow.
     
  12. bigbuckdown

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    preach on it but you know what if those dollars we spend helps feed families and creates american jobs 4 AMERICANS then all is well except the price they lose alot of customers by over-charging and i do not respect that.i dont know about none of ya'll but every penny i make goes towards bills and keeping a roof over my younguns head the economy is crap i cant afford a high priced bow and all the money that goes into one and as far as marketing goes mr.waddell doesnt get multi-millions to endorse hell he's not micheal jordan or mr. i got away from my bhuddism lol.. they are to blind to reconize that they are turning money away hell even if you dont want to sale ya equipment at a blue collar price once you come out w/ a new bow mark down your price on your surplus bows leave them on the shelf and sale the damn things.we only have ourselves to blame. we pay 4 these things,if we didnt you can believe they would be marketing hard as hell to sale you a bow at discount prices my question is how much of the price we pay is retailer mark up?
     
  13. Fitz

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    Ferrari isn't going to make a Kia Rio because of a bad dip in the economy. Why would we expect that from bow manufacturers?

    In-fact, most manufacturers do have more affordable models (ie. Mathews & Mission Bows). I see no problem with how the price structure is set up. If you are unable or unwilling to buy a $800-1600 bow, you don't have to. There are plenty of $300 bows out there, still new. If that's not what you're looking for, then buy used, they start around $50.

    I guess I don't see what the fuss is all about.
     
  14. Greg / MO

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    What Fitz said.

    If you really wanted to outfit yourself as a bowhunter, you can do it REALLY cheap, and have some good gear for the price.

    On the other hand, if you want top-of-the-line, it's not going to be as cheap.... that's obvious. But there ARE choices for any price range.
     
  15. bigbuckdown

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    did you feel the same way when we was paying $5-$6 a gallon for gas i bet not.its the same for me i'm not saying that they make us purchace thier product.what i am trying to get across is that ANY BOW MADE SHOULDNT HAVE FERRARI TYPE PRICES B/c its not a damn ferrari !!! that being said i leave it at that b/c we both know it cost nothing to mass produce these bows and they the companies charge us the consumer 6-7 times the amount necessary to make a profit i dont respect that. that is price gowging (cant spell sorry)thats how i feel about it you may not agree but thats your opinion that you are intitled to.
     
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    Personally, it depends on what you think is high and what you are recieving for that price bump.

    I am still buying a bow or two a year. Mainly because after a bow is more than a year old, the price drops significantly. The high end used bow market is fantastic for people willing to wait. In short, I buy a new bow (s) every year because I don't want to lose more money than I have to.

    Really depends one what you consider to be the "best bow" and the "lowest price." IMO Mission archery, Diamond Archery, and a few of the box store bows that are made by major companys are the best value for your dollar. Unfortunately, they don't help the local guy out too much.

    Again IMO, "too much" is a very relative term. If they were charging too much, people wouldn't be buying and bow companies don't make bows that people aren't buying. Somewhere, someone is saying, "yeah, I can swing that."
     
  17. bigbuckdown

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    well said even if my point of view is different
     
  18. Greg / MO

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    It's not an apples-to-apples analogy; when ALL gas is $4+ a gallon, you're left with little choice but to suck it up and pay it.

    You do NOT have to buy a $900 bow to kill a deer. You may WANT one and not be able to AFFORD one, but no one is forcing you to buy one -- just like no one is forcing you to buy the Ferarri you alluded to. That's why they make $15,000 cars, and there's a demand for much-lower selling cars on the used market.

    And you're skewed on your perception of what it costs to manufactur a bow as well. As someone who gets to peek behind the scenes at the industry and specifically with a certain manufacturer, I can tell you it costs way more to build a Destroyer than it does a Razor's Edge.

    In fact, there's more profit for the company in a lot of the middle-tier level bows than there is the flagship bow, because of just HOW advanced the technology is in that bow and the use of PREMIUM materials that goes into it. Little things that go unnoticed... like the plastic shims that the Hardcore limbs rest and pivot on are not just normal pieces of plastic: they're procured from Germany, and are among the slickest substances known to man. Craig, the designer of the bow, told me trying to pick one up with your fingers is akin to picking up an ice cube.

    There's a lot more that goes into ANY company's flagship bows than you probably realize. The good thing about it is if you're not willing to pay for the technology, research or craftsmanship -- you don't have to. Unlike gas.
     
  19. BowFreak

    BowFreak Die Hard Bowhunter

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    This is very good point!
     

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