Not hurting my feelings at all. I am the first to admit that a big part of why I have enjoyed success on mature bucks is because they are here. That being said, I know a lot of guys that live here and have hunted a lifetime without killing a 170's or better buck. But, I also know a handful of guys that do it on a very consistent basis. That number is pretty small. I have no doubt, that you and several others could do the same here. So, it sounds like you are seeing the top end animals for your area. I would suggest you start shooting them. There are exceptions to your location generalization. I think we could stick Troy in the middle of a Wal-Mart parking lot and he would still kill a top end buck. I know he is not around a lot anymore, but he is as consistent as they come and does it in an area where big bucks are few and far between. He could get it done anywhere. A lot of guys couldn't get it done in a petting zoo.