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Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by bigwoodsbowhunter, Nov 13, 2017.

  1. bigwoodsbowhunter

    bigwoodsbowhunter Weekend Warrior

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    Whether or not I'm torqueing my bow or not this is the second time in 3 years while drawing on a buck my string came of my top roller and cost me a chance at a buck, only this time it would've been my biggest buck to date.
    This is my 4th year hunting with my Mathews Creed with which I harvested my biggest buck the first season out. My second season the night before bow season was the first time this happened while getting some practice in the string slip off the roller and I had to drive an hour to my bow shop to have it put back on. Later on that November while walking to my stand I put Evercalm on my boots and reached my stand on one of those cold, quiet and frosty morning that we all long for. As soon as the sun came up I hit my can call 3 times and a buck followed my trail on a string to the base of my stand at 5 yards! As he cleared into my shooting lanes I began drawing my bow and it happened again and there I was standing in my stand absolutely helpless as I watched that buck walk off.
    Last year I never had a chance to draw on a deer which made me practice more and to always make sure my draw cycle was perfect with every shot so when the season finally came I was ready and that brings me to Saturday November 11 the last day I could take a buck, the nightmare came true by 10 fold. Again a perfect morning to be in a treestand cold, quiet and frosty and it wasn't long until things started to heat up. At 7:00 I heard them coming, 2 does with the buck I've been chasing for 3 years hot on their heals. The does followed my trail of Evercalm by my stand at 15 yards and the buck was following and as he cleared the last tree into my shooting I drew on him and BANG it happened again!!
    So if I am torqueing my bow or not this should still not happen. As bow hunters, some times we have to draw in difficult positions or adjust the draw cycle in the "heat of the moment" to account for a branch in the way which sometimes results in torqueing be, so I question you, is it my fault or my equipment? Please no smart ass responses because I'm truly crushed right now and don't think I could take it, and thanks ahead of time for your thoughts.
     
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    Rangerdan Weekend Warrior

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    You are correct in assuming this is not the norm, and should not happen. I think your equipment is failing you. Could be a tuning issue. I would have it looked at by a pro shop. Best of luck and sorry to hear about the bad luck. Its heart breaking.
     
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    Time for a new bow....what bow do you have?
     
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    I️ would be on the phone with the manufacturer getting a new bow!


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  5. Blarney22

    Blarney22 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    When you say top roller are you referring to the cam at the top of the bow or the rollers that are located roughly in the middle of the bow?
     
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    bigwoodsbowhunter Weekend Warrior

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    Mathews Creed
     
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    bigwoodsbowhunter Weekend Warrior

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    Yes the cam but its not a cam since this bow is a single cam and that's on the bottom
     
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    I'd try to get the company to replace it but that SOB would get replaced ASAP one way or another. That is simply unacceptable.
     
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    mikey custom-g Weekend Warrior

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    Very sorry to hear.

    Did you normally check your rig over for cam lean ? Kinda hard to torque a bow that far while pulling back heavy poundage too without noticing the torque.

    I’d trade the bow in for a Hoyt. Never psychologically would I be able to draw it again without it killing me in the head. I’d never be able to focus on the shot.




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    bigwoodsbowhunter Weekend Warrior

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    I actually just had the limbs replaced 2 weeks before the season do to 1 limb starting to splinter. My bow shop replaced the limbs and went over everything to make sure it was in good shooting order.
     
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    remmett70 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    With the amount of play a release and dloop provide it is damn hard to torque a string off one yet alone multiple times. My first guess would be there is a major alignment issue with your bow. Second would be a bad spot in the string in the area that goes around that top pulley.
     
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    exactly....I could not hunt with it anymore...
     
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    bigwoodsbowhunter Weekend Warrior

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    Just got back from my bow shop and after having them go over it thoroughly and finding nothing wrong, the decision was made to ship it to Mathews and have them check it out.
     
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    Well, that's not a great solution, doesn't get you a working bow in the mean time. I'd try to get a rep on the phone and see if I could get them to do something better for you. They're lucky you didn't get hurt and file a lawsuit.
     
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    If your tourqing your grip and the string across your body as you draw you very well could be pulling the string off the top idler wheel. This sometimes can happen if your draw length is too long as well because the only way to get the cam to roll into the valley is to hyper extend your arms. At any rate, when you get the bow back sell it, the money spent will be worth the peace of mind no matter what brand you shoot. Hope everything works out in the end for you!
     
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    Back in the spring I had the draw length lengthen, this is after it had happened twice before so I know its not a draw length issue.
     
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    Replacing your limbs might be a start to some cam lean. Not sure ofcourse without seeing the bow.

    I’d get rid of that thing faster than a rabbit does its work ! I could never entrust pulling its string back again.


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    something wasn't to spec when it left the factory...I would demand a new bow.
     
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    4 years after the bow was made and we don't know if the bow was bought second hand? Plus it is not known if it is user error? The Manufactures warranty is probably very clear I would guess 1 year on materials and workmanship. For any customer to expect a replacement after 4 years is ludicrous.
     
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    This happened to me once. I'm pretty sure I torqued on my bow and drew back across my body. The string came off, arrow split in half upon release and went flying in different directions. I kept my bow, had new string put on, tuned it and practiced proper technique and have not happened since. You are lucky one of those arrows hasn't hit you in the hand yet. I've seen some pretty ugly pictures of carbon arrows lodged in a person's hand from stuff like this. I was lucky.
     

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