"Water tanks" for illegals crossing the desert?

I agree Steve. Increase the fines until they become so bad the company shuts down.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...-trafficking/2011/07/22/gIQArmPVcI_story.html

"Mexico has become a major destination for sex traffic, as well as a transit point and supplier of victims to the United States"

 

That's what I am saying we do, sorry I am not going to get into pictures of putting anti-freeze in their water or gunning them dowm. Because I would do the exact same thing as most of them if I needed to feed my family

If we make it so they cannot make money here, they are not going to come. If we make it business cannot make make money of them, they will not hire them.

I worked for a maid company for four years. It was a national company, most of the owners had illegals. From the midwest to CA to NY. One owner in Denver got busted.

 

The demand for drugs will never go away, the choice of drug is the only thing that may change. The employers that are hiring these illegals should be punished, period. I agree that if we nip this in the ***, we will see a change... However, this also won't entirely happen, everyone is chasing a dollar in this scenario. The crooked employer won't change his ways and they probably won't get caught. We need to go straight to the source and stop them from coming in, the border control needs to have the full authority to fire at any illegal attempting to enter this country illegal. Sounds harsh, yes, but they will get this message. Here's a scenario for you.. Say your neighborhood is in complete turmoil, people don't have a job, no source of income, and the people around it have drugs and weapons. You have enough money and food to keep your family safe and alive and well. These outsiders around you want what you have. They attempt to come in and take it. Would you just sen them back out of your "compound" or eliminate them?

 

Yep and the customers are where?

 

Do you also feel "sorry" for and apologize for "American made" drug dealers because they are "just supplying customers"? It is really not their fault ya know, it is someone else "making" them do it.

And for the record I never once said anything about poisoning water or anything like that at all. Each day I work I come across great hispanic persons and families who give it their all each day. I have nothing against them personally. I DO have something against our lax attitude toward illegal immigration.

 

Now I'm confused. Are all Hispanics illegal immigrants? And not all of them are drug dealing prostitutes?

 

Who(where did I say) said I feel sorry for any of them? I am simpling pointing out where the problem is at. That problem is we have a demand for cheap farm/factory labor, drugs and prositution.

Some blame the immigrants for breaking the law and should, I put most of the blame on the business who hire them. I put the blame on sex trafficing blame on the johns who use them. Same for drug users. As long as their is a demand and money to be made, the issue will not be solved. How did proibition workout for us?

We sure can cut it down by putting more boots on the ground, I ask again how do we pay for it?


No doubt you did not say anything about poison.

 

Is it a problem or a need? Imagine if we didn't have cheap farm labor what American grown produce would cost.

 

Wanting cheap produce is no excuse for illegal immigration. In fact, it's a really, really horrible notion.

We figured out how to produce cotton without enslaving people.... we can figure out how to pick lettuce without illegals.

And if the price of lettuce goes up a couple bucks... that's still cheaper overall than the price we all pay for illegal immigration.

 

Easy now.

I was only asking a question and making the statement that people would ***** more about the price of their food than they do about illegal immigration.

 

I was not going to go there Dan, but it is another piece to this issue. Ever year the farm workers show up at our neighbors to pick potato's, I have never asked, but I bet they are all not legal.

My point here is not that I disagree with VS, I pretty much do, but we need to look at the problem from a different view point. We need to look at from VS view point, mine and many others.

 

Really do you have any numbers on this? It would be interesting to break it down on rising cost of food vs the cost of illegal immigrants.

 

Same thing here with the apple orchards. Does it bother me? Not in the least. They're not the ones causing problems.

 

Off the top of my head... of course not. I have read such before and I can tell you from working for hospitals in Texas and the tobacco areas of KY that there is a ton of 'hidden' cost that comes with that 'cheap' labor.

And I do know I can opt out of buying a head of lettuce if I think it costs too much. Not so easy to opt out of paying the increased taxes and higher insurance premiums.

I'll throw this back at you... If it is a good thing to pay almost nothing for labor then by all means we should fire all the overpaid UAW and use cheap illegals to build cars. I could use a cheap vehicle more than a cheap head of lettuce.

 

As usual, your logic is right on girl!

 

Great post

 

I agree that the businesses that knowingly hire illegals need to pay a steep price. We have to stop giving the illegal population the resources, from the ability to earn wages to the ability for public assistance and social services.

 

Now we're getting somewhere.

 

Hasn't this already happened? We just took the plants to the workers, instead of making the workers trek across the desert.