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"Water tanks" for illegals crossing the desert?

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by virginiashadow, Mar 1, 2012.

  1. davidmil

    davidmil Grizzled Veteran

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    I have no doubt it's being done. I saw on Border Wars the other night that something like 135 people died from the heat last year while trying to cross the desert in NM. You know damn well some dogooder cried enough to make a stink.
     
  2. iHunt

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    I heard the new antifreeze doesn't kill things anymore, might have to track down some old school jugs :lol:

    *disclaimer* I kid I kid, I do not endorse this. Only filling the tank full of holes :tu:
     
  3. Finch

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    You would prefer them arriving to the tank only to find no water and slowly die of dehydration? You bastard! At least they will rehydrate with my method. :)

    All kidding aside...those are probably the "good" illegals drinking from the water tanks.
     
  4. Dan

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    All I stated was that I believe there are advocacy groups that do this, but not our government. Your original post contained a couple random pictures and you saying our government is providing the water tanks. All I asked for was some proof, which you never provided.

    So, if you can provide some concrete proof that our government is indeed doing this, then I will be just as pissed as you.
     
  5. virginiashadow

    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    http://www.humaneborders.org/about/about_wstations.html

    Most of the deaths in border crossings come from dehydration, so in 2001 we established and continue to maintain a network of water stations in the region. Thirty-five stations are now serviced by thousands of volunteers. Since 2001 we have dispensed more than 100,000 gallons of water and we're still counting. Permits and agreements to place and maintain the water stations have been reached with a variety of government agencies including the U.S. National Park Service, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, U.S. Bureau of Land Management, Pima County, Ariz., the City of Tucson, Ariz., Grupo Beta in Sonora, Mexico, and private property owners along the border. Most Humane Borders water stations consist of a single 65-gallon barrel of water, while others may have up to half a dozen barrels. All the barrels are constructed of industrial strength plastic, fitted with spigots, and placed on steel stands above the desert floor. All the water stations are marked by a blue flag atop a flagpole 30 feet high. The barrels all have Humane Borders bumper stickers on them and are painted with the word "Agua" (Spanish for water) on the side. Local soft drink companies who support our cause have donated some of the 65-gallon drums.


    By collaborating with the the Pima County Medical Examiner, Humane Borders develops detailed maps of the region that mark the GPS location of every migrant discovered to have died. This information allows us to approach government and private land managers, show them where deaths occur most frequently, and offer a strategy for water stations aimed at curbing the fatalities. On some federal lands, our permits allow us to place the water stations a day's walk apart. On some private ranches we place the barrels at cattle watering stations so that migrants don't damage equipment and drink foul water. We know that more deaths occur in the areas we are not permitted to establish the water stations. It is not our business to pretend we can control the flow of migrants that come north through our deserts where daytime summer temperatures can exceed 110 degrees. The facts are that due to circumstances way beyond our control they do come. Despite whatever opposing political views people may have on this issue we hope that the one thing we can all agree on is that this northward migration should not cost people their lives. The water stations are maintained by hundreds of volunteers. Each station is checked regularly to ensure the safety of the water, report vandalism, and pick up the inevitable collection of trash and discarded personal items left behind. All the water barrels are purified with chlorine, preventing organic growth and keeping the life-saving water safe for drinking.
    All materials copyright ©, Humane Borders, 2011.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/27/us/27water.html

    Still, the federal government has acknowledged that additional steps are needed to keep deaths down on its land. In 2001, it gave another aid group, Humane Borders, a permit to keep several large water drums on the refuge, each of them marked by a blue flag and featuring a spigot to allow immigrants to fill their water bottles for the long trek north.


     
  6. Finch

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    If that isn't an invitation to illegally cross the border than I don't know what is. Crazy world!
     
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    Brett, I'm not going to say anything to step on your toes here, but those "tanks" are all over here in Texas. The second pic is an actual tank for wildlife. There is also a feeder behind it. More power to them if they made it across the desert after drinking that stagnant water. I have seen that series of pics and days before there was every animal known in Texas drinking out of that tank. If I'm not mistaken a Mt. Lion drank from it just minutes after the illegals were there. I'm just saying that is common practice down here and they are just being opportunists.
     
  8. davidmil

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    What a great country. You slip across the border and get a job working for some touchy touchy feel good outfit filling water tanks for the next group coming across the border.... ILLEGALLY I MIGHT ADD. This country has really gone to hell in a handbasket.
     
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    Damn those people wanting to help another human being, they are for sure first class pricks
     
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    maybe not vs. but i was sure waiting for the thread of burning it...
     
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    2 Lunger, I hear you, but the tanks I am referring to are the one's that are being placed out in the desert to help aid illegal immigrants. The second pic I posted is probably a cattle tank that the illegals are using.

    Germ, that is cool. I hope those people "help" the illegals, drugs, gangs, human trafficking right into your pocketbook and neighborhood.
     
  12. davidmil

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    What part of "ILLEGAL" don't you understand Germ. They can just as easily be terrorist wanting to blow your butt up. You and I have to jump through all sorts of hoops with passports or whatever to enter their country. And Heaven forbid, if you get kidnapped or arrested(about the same in some of these countries). It's not going to be pretty. You're all into the "UNIONS" and the great things they do for this country. Well hells bells boy... these folks are taking your jobs and then making you pay for their babies, food, medical and they haven't paid the first penny of taxes. When enough of the Muslims finally get in this country your vote will no longer count.... unless of course you're still voting for someone to stick it up your butt. We don't have to help all the people of the world... and certainly those that don't care about our borders or our laws. I'd rather help them with a bullet at the border than have them take over our country and destroy our economy.
     
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    You guys know they are all human trafficking drug dealers correct? If you were them what would you do to take care of your family? Would you risk crossing a boarder to feed your family? Look at it from a different point is all I am saying.

    As for drug dealing human trafficker piece, the customers are here, where the real problem is at.
     
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    Its not the goverment, its the native people putting them out. Had to do a little research.
     
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    Yes I would cross the border to take care of my family. That is not the point.

    You sound like an apologist Gary. Come on man.

    I work very closely with illegal immigrants each day. Heck, I broke up a party the other day with about 10 out of 20 of them being illegal.
     
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    To be honest Germ If everybody had this mindset the problem would be a thousand times worse. You either let them all In or you don't let any In. None of this In between BS.
     
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    Where is the drug problem at and the human trafficking? Let's fix own our problems. If business did not hire them would they come over?

    I am all for not having illegals cross the boarder, but until we fix the issues here it won't be solved. Everyone here would cross that border to make money and feed their families.

    Would anyone cross it if their were no jobs? Fix our problems here and the immigration problem will fix itself.

    Who is hiring these people?
     
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    The immigration problem will fix itself??? No way. I get what your saying about we have our own issues, but this IS our issue. They are exploiting our country to the max! Coming here, making some money, taking it back home to support their family. They need to go through the legal process to get here, like ALL of OUR ancestors did.
     
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    Who's paying them? If you cut off the money will they come over? We could just line the army on the boarder and fire away also, but who is going to pay for that?

    If they cannot make any money here, they are not going to come, it is that simple. If we do not have a demand for drugs, they are not going to produce them and mule them over.

    This is how capitalism works, supply and demand. We have demand for illegal workers in this country, the companies and citizens paying these people our part of the problem. It's a problem we can fix for a hell of a lot less money than lining the boarder with troops. If we take the troops option how are we going to pay for it?
     
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    Yes there are dumb **** employers out there hiring these Illegal Immigrants. I see It 1st hand around here. Bus loads get shipped back usually twice a year In the area I live In. I say fine the hell out of these company's. Still It doesn't make It right for these people to cross Into my country Illegaly. Why can't they do It the right way and get citizenship Instead of trying to be a sneak? Mexico don't have a drug problem huh? There's fricking drugs In every country.
     

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