Ok here it goes..... I am shooting from 10-20-30-40....all shots with 20 yard pin... Rage Broadheads: 10- Dead Center (a touch high) 20- A Tad Left maybe 1/4" 30-4" Low---- 2" Left 40- 10" Low----3"+ Left Slick Tricks 100Grn Magnum: 10-Dead Center 20-Low 2"----Right 2" 30-Low 12"-----Right 4" 40- I am not even going to attempt it?? It seems that no matter what I do wiht Rages I cant get them consisantly shooting dead on! Which way do I need to move the rest to get a happy medium? Is there something I am missing?? I am shooting a Martin Jaguar Magnum 28 1/2" draw 29" FMJ 340 Arrow with 100Grn Heads at 66lbs!! Let me know whatcha think? It could EASILY be a tourqing(sp!) issue as the level on my sight is no where near being center as it just feels unnatural, I feel like I am really tourqing the bow????
ALOT of guys say it feels weird to actually hold the bow per the level the first few times. It actually feels like you are over correcting, until it becomes natural. I would make sure my sight is square and trust the level. As for the braodhead issues, GMMAT has mentioned some things and many more with better skills than me will help you with that.
I've never seen anyone walkback tune with broadheads... My method is to walback tune with field points, and then fine-tune my setup after center shot is verified with walkback tuning (I say verified because I initially set mine with a laser) with broadhead tuning.
This is a done deal! Thanks!! I just learned this today that Field Tips is what need to be walk back tuned. Thanks I am going to shoot tommorow and do it the RIGHT way this time!! Haha Thanks!! I will update tommorow evening with my progress and any further questions!!
Too many variables with broadheads.Centershot can be dead on but broadheads can still hit left or right depending on spine , squareness of head to shaft or even proper fletching..Set center as close as possible with walk back,then broadhead tune,(group tune if target shooting).You work out the variables with broadhead tuning.Walk back will be dead on at this point.You can double check if you wish.
Squareness of broadhead to shaft and adequate fletching for fixed heads. Archery and tuning is easier when you eliminate variables 1 at a time rather than try to take on a bunch at once.
Even if you do all that,broadheads are finicky and might make the process tough to get accurate readings but if you have the patience and time,it can be done. You could walk back with 1 head and try another and it will be 1" different.Even if the centershot is perfect. IMO,the walk back is a starting point,just like many other tuning methods.Fine tuning is either broadhead tuning or group tuning or both.
"MY" reasons are listed above. Hell,I bareshaft through paper and don't go to fixed heads untill the end.,but I will broadhead tune.That's even if I plan on using mechanicals.
is there such thing as overkill tuning? I mean there are so many ways and variables involved...is it possible to just over do it? how much is enough?
I don't think overdoing can hurt anything unless you are constantly adjusting things. A lot of the "extra" tuning I do is mostly just checking. Heck, just shooting groups at distance is verifying a tune, group tuning .
Ok well I went back out tonight and shot! I am now shooting as so.... 10,20,30,40yrds Field Tips: 10- 1"High 20-1/4" High 30-3" Low and a Hair Maybe 1/8" Right if that 40- 8-9" Low and also maybe 1/4" Right if that and for those going "How can he tell an 1/8" difference".. if you fling enough arrows at the target it really does become evident of exactly where you are hitting, this is where the whole group shooting comes in handy!! It is key I believe to truely tuning your bow, but I do not have the courage to keep slapping arrows together!! I cringe everytime I hear that noise!!! I'll be completely honest I did not move a thing, and figured I could get it closer at the 30-40yrds but I am completely happy with that little bit of change at those distances! I know it is probably not "the right thing to do" but I figured I couldnt even move the rest as small of an increment as I probably would need too!? I MAY try to get the change tommorow, but I am still not sure if it will give me the change I need anyhow?? Rage Broadheads: 10- 1/2" high 20- Dead Center 30- Same as Field tip 40- The best I can tell is about an 1/8" more right then the field tip! Disclaimer: I have NO INTENTION of attempting a shot past 25yrds with a broadhead this year let alone 40 so I should be just fine with this set-up?!! Slick Tricks: 10- Dead Center 20- 3" Low----1 1/4" Right 30-? 40? I was starting to get shaky with my shooting and decided to give it a rest for the night! Ill play some more tommorow..!! I will let you know how I am shooting tommorow!! Also I am completely tickled as I was grouping arrows together tonight better then I have all year, it all kind of came together for me and it all felt great, the draw, the anchor, the release, the shot, everything was good!!!
OK GUYS..... I went back out yesterday and shot. I started off with getting my 40-50 yrd pins dialed in. In about ten minutes time I was nailing centers at 40 and then within an inch or so around 50! This was with Field Tips and Rages. I then moved up to 20 in ten yard increments and was shooting some of the best arrows I have shot all year!! This is the goofy part, I put on the Slick Tricks and was nailing bullseyes at 20 with 20yrd pin! I stepped back to 30 and was maybe 3"- 4" low with 30yrd pin? I am done stressing over it. I plan on using the rages and will not be shooting past 25yrds anyway but just wanted to fill you guys in on the fact I think ALOT of my problems were ME!! I am finally getting comfortable with my anchor point and everything is just falling in place!! I wanted to say Thank You to all who have tried to help me through my shooting these past couple weeks!!
You must not get BH tuning at all then!!!! If that ST is a little low at 30, but ok at 20, then you're rest is LOW or Nockpoint HIGH, or you've got a different weighted tip than you thought you had.
Yes I do realize there is a problem there! I could move my nockpoint but I do not plan to use the Slicks other then for a back up shot or for fox/coyote? I am shooting very good with my Rages and dont feel I need to move it anymore this year? I did just have an interesting thought that you may be onto though......?????? My 20-30 yard pins are relatively close on my sight as where my 40 is a long drop from 30 as is my 50 from my 40?? I is thinking you may be onto something???
I am aware of this! I did not know but my thinking is...... I obviously need to lower my nock point to bring my Fixed Heads up with my Field tips. In my thinking if I would lower my nock point I wonder if it would make my arrows fly better at 40-50yrds therfore reducing the gap between my pins?? I honestly do not know, it just sounded good as I was pondering the thought??
