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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Sota, Aug 20, 2017.

  1. Sota

    Sota Legendary Woodsman

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    Sorry Jake I have no response I have been too busy trolling the local newspaper's post game comment section. I am so happy they hate me they really really hate me.
     
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    MnHunterr Legendary Woodsman

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    I have no idea what's going on right now haha. Anyways. On to next week!


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    No really Jake let's discuss your feelings about post season home field slipping away with the loss today. I am sure you have mixed emotions with anger and shame and disappointment. SKOAL.:poke:
     
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    Honestly don't have any feelings about today's loss. I wasn't emotionally involved watching/following the game to really feel mad/sad/disappointed. A loss is a loss just gotta move on.

    For future reference though - It's "SKOL," not "SKOAL." I prefer Grizzly over Skoal myself.


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    Sorry about the spelling error I am a little spent from trolling.:biggrin:
     
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    A loss had to come at some point - glad to get it out of the way and move on, the good news is the Packers were rooting for the Vikings


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    I was rather subdued yesterday at work, I didn't really talk about the games. I did hear two chuckle heads discussing the disallowed catch, evidently the fans and coach Zim think the rule is stupid and the catch was actually a catch. Never mind the commentators, the refs and replay officials that understand the rule and explained why it was not a catch does not register with viking fans and coaches.
     
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    Commentators are worthless for facts.

    I don't think it was a catch unfortunately.
     
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    after Cam's arrogant ace won, the worst part is when dinkus from the browns threw up that rainbow during OT,(Yes, OT vs a 0-12 team) to give away the game to the pack.
     
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    Honestly... I have no idea what is or is not a catch anymore, and neither does the NFL/Officiating crews (I did not see the play in question, just telling it how it is).
     
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    Well what you saw theilen do was not a catch because the ball moved (not in complete control) as he went out of bounds, pretty simple.
     
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    That's great (you must have missed the part where I said I did not see the play). The point still remains... The NFL/Officiating still has no idea what they are doing in regards to the catch rule.
     
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    No the movement was pretty clear, middle of the field that is a catch, going out of bounds the ball can not be regrasped, it is clear.
     
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    You should apply to become an NFL replay official. Excellent analysis.

    I'm not talking about the pass to Thielen (for the 3rd time). I'm making a general statement about the review officials screwing up calls week in and week out. It happens every week. You hear the commentators (who you seem to agree with), say every week "how do they rule that a catch/how do they not rule that a catch. Go check out Austin-Sefarian Jenkins few no call TD's this year.
     
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    Actually Jake sounds like you should be a replay individual. Or on the NFL rules committee, or you could write an op ed piece how the refs are killing your fantasy football team.
     
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    I think the first thing would be to stop calling it a catch. A catch and a completed pass are not the same thing. A catch out of bounds is an incompletion. Catching the ball is just one criteria of a completed pass.
     
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    Clearly missing my point, but ok.
     
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    I mean... If you don't think there's a problem with the review system on what is considered a catch/completion then I can't help you.

    Go back to the Bears/Saints game when Zach Millers leg basically got ripped off. Watch that play and tell me how it wasn't a catch/completion/TD. The former referee who created the replay system and the "catch" rule argued how they could call it an incompletion.

    Week 6 when Austin Seferian-Jenkins TD was called an incomplete.

    Week 3 Golden Tate game winning TD not called.

    Current NFL senior VP of officiating Al Riveron has defended each of those non calls since review.

    The "catch" rule simply needs to be simplified so this stuff doesn't keep happening.
     
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    It is one of those things that if it happens to your team it is an outrage but if it happens to your rival it's no big deal.:biggrin:
     
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    The rule is pretty clear, when going to the ground and has been called consistently. People just want them to be TDs regardless. While sure it sucks that Miller probably would have held on if not for the injury, we can't make exceptions for them or all a player would need to do is fake an injury to get the benefit of the doubt. In the jets game, I could understand letting the call on the field stand as an inconclusive review, but I also agree with the overturn. It was a fumble.

    Your third option doesn't even question whether it was a catch or not, it was a down by contract ruling and a run off for running clock. Same thing happened in the packers game this last weekend, luckily the Packers had more time left.

    I hear people say all the time it need to be changed, but I've yet to hear a suggestion that wouldn't make the game worse. There are only a small handful of "questionable" calls and this rule has been around for a long time. First time I can remember it being called was 2007/08 in a Packers/Bears game against Greg Jennings. but the rule has kept a far far greater number of "catches" that shouldn't be completions from becoming completions.
     

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