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Vertical vs Horizontal Pins

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by muzzyman88, May 1, 2025.

  1. muzzyman88

    muzzyman88 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Question for you folks. Who else finds vertical pins annoying and prefers horizontal? A few years ago, I jumped for a standard fixed pin sight to a slider with two vertical pins, the Spot Hogg Fast Eddie Dbl pin to be exact. I thought I would love the cleaner sight picture and setting my top pin at 25 yards when hunting, gave me the second pin at around 38yards on the dial. It was simple enough and overall worked ok, but I noticed something recently. My accuracy has dropped off. I chalked it all up to just getting older, eye sight isn't what it used to be (which might be part of the vertical pin issue for me btw), etc. It dawned on me that my accuracy issues aren't left and right misses, but up or down misses. Again, I shrugged it off as it being the indian and not the bow.

    I just picked up a new Spot Hogg Boonie sight as the new design addresses all of the things I didn't like about the Fast Eddie. I also chose to go back to a three pin horizontal fixture, like the old school fixed sight I used for a decade. After a bit of setup time, I honestly noticed a huge improvement in my accuracy.

    The issue I was having was because I had two pins inline vertical, my aim point gets sloppy because there is no clean distinction with up and down between the pins, its a solid black line with two dots in it. My eyes just can't register it apparently... and my accuracy suffered. For me, the three horizontal pins clean up this dramatically.

    Anyone else have my issue?
     
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    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    I've used single pin and multi pin vertical sights. I went back to horizontal pins and they just feel better to me these days. Shots feel cleaner and I naturally hold my bow more level.
     
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    I prefer the vertical single pin for all the reasons you stated. I have not tried a double vertical pin, so I have not experienced your frustrations.
     
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    I am the same way. I shot Hunter class 3-D for so many years that having the horizontal pin to use as a reference when splitting pin for random distances and holding on certain target features just became part of my shot routine. Vertical pins feel like writing with my left hand.
     
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    I'm afraid it's personal preference. I have shot both and settled on vertical. I don't shoot beyond 40.i am set at 30 and have trained myself to know where 20 and 40 are. It's a clear sight field and I never need to move it. "I used the wrong pin " is something I don't have to worry about. But it's all about knowing yourself and your rig

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    Like most people, I shot horizontal pins for most of my life. When I first switched to a vertical single pin I HATED it. Took me awhile to get used to it, but I'm not sure I could go back now if I wanted to. I've tried multiple horizontal pin configurations and felt like my sight window was too cluttered, and I always went back to the single vertical pin.

    I'm currently shooting the HHA 2 pin and the second pin is only there for those "oh crap" moments if I am at full draw and the animal spooks or moves and I need that secondary aiming point. Otherwise, I'm going to range, dial in the yardage, and shoot with my top pin every chance I get.

    I'm not a very good shot, so it's tough to tell if I'm more accurate one way or another. :lol:
     
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    I prefer 'horizontal' as what fixed pins have, however very few 'sliders' like my TETRA have 'em, most are vertical
     
  8. muzzyman88

    muzzyman88 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I think I learned that I'm a bit OCD at times. lol. My mind wants a very precise aiming point and those two pins stacked vertical messes with me because there is no light between the two. I'm quite sure some of it is just my eyes aging too.

    Its funny, I have been shooting this double pin slider for 4 years now and I don't think I've touched the wheel on it in two years once I had it set up the way I wanted it. Top pin is 25 yards, bottom is around 38 yards so I don't really need to move it. I'm also realizing that most of the spots I hunt, I can't see much more than 50 yards and shots are almost always inside of 30.

    Honestly not sure why I bought the slider again and would be just fine with the good old fixed three pin, but am happy with the versatility if I ever need it.
     
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    muzzyman88 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    The spot hoggs have you covered. I think there is something like 5-6 head configurations you can choose from.
     
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    I just want a two pin sight and will either buy a custom two pin sight or modify something to make it work. Thinking of just having 20 and 40 yd pins. Gives me room to look between pins and doesn't overcomplicate things for my basic brain.
     
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    It's nice to be able to go air it out when you want to. Hopefully I never "need" to, or something has gone very wrong. :lol:
     
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    I do have a MBG micro adjust set up as a 3 pin (20/30/40) has a 4th for 50yds if I want, this is the one on the Ritual 33, my back up bow ... Ive shot the single pins now as my primary site for over 20 yrs and just dabbled with the fixed.. prolly 'cause of my TP, so much easier to concentrate on one pin and I know my trajectory very well to 40 yds (set at 25yds) ... I have 2 Tetra's and one is on the main bow, the SR350, the other for the Ritual if I want..... both types have their advantages
     
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    Went from horizontal to vertical and haven’t looked back. With the 2 pin stack you can use the bottom for the floater. I like the more clear pic with vertical over the horizontal, but shooting gaps is/was easier back in the day with the horizontal. I just use a single now and hold over for 30/35yd if they booger out and can’t adjust.
     
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    Both pin setups have their fans. Vertical pins can offer a clearer sight picture and less obstruction, while horizontal ones are more traditional and widely used. It really depends on personal comfort and what your eye naturally aligns with. Deciding between them reminds me of picking tools at writemypaperin3hours efficiency and clarity make all the difference. Whichever setup lets you aim faster and with more confidence is the one to go with. Test both if you can.
     
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    well, for crap and giggles I put the MGB Revenge fixed on my main bow the SR350 ... I can always go back to the Tetra/single pin before season if needed .. If I shoot good with the fixed and feel comfortable with it thru this summer, I may just use the fixed this season as I havnt hunted with fixed in around 15 yrs ...
     
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    I tried vertical pins when they first came out years ago, don’t even remember the brand.
    At the time I shot fixed pins and would gap shoot 25, 35, etc. messed with me that I couldn’t see to target area with the vertical, so went back and never looked back.
    Shoot a 3 pin slider now and have been very happy with it for years now.
     

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