that was just nasty. once again cementing himself as best fighter on the planet. hope gsp beats shields so silva can work gsp over and finally put to rest all the p4p debates.
ya bones def has potential. i think shogun will beat him though, just too experienced and too good of a striker for jones. if jones does win i say give silva 205 title shot lol
I wouldn't be to quick to count GSP out, he's the smartest fighter to ever step in the cage, you can't break his game plan, and Based on the Sonnen fight, anderson got whipped 5 rounds and pulled off a great win, and then you have Vitor who basically got caught by an awesome kick, Silva knows how to win, but so does GSP. I think it could be one of the greatest fights ever, I just hope the UFC can get on the ball with it.
true, sonnen did take him down, but sonnen is huge compared to gsp, even if he bulks up for the fight. plus, gsp got submitted by matt hughes, who has a fraction of the ground game that silva has. if silva got taken down, it would be matter of time before he submitted gsp. i like gsp, but he isnt on silva's level. lose lose for silva anyway. if he wins, he was suppose to and its because he's bigger fighter, if he loses, then its upset. id rather see him move up and dominate 205 and capture belt there.
How can you look at the Hughes fight from 2004 to make a comparison? It was GSP's third fight in the UFC and he was fighting his Idol at the time. He got caught in an Armbar and then beat Matt the next two times they met, including an Armbar in their last fight. There is no comparison to the skills of either in 2004 compared to where fighters are today, GSP has evolved immensely. Here is where you have to look at this. Can GSP move up a weight class and not lose speed while increasing strength. Can Silva move down without it affecting him when matched to GSP? GSP is four inches shorter with around a 2 inch shorter reach. If the two weigh in at an equal weight, GSP will likely hold more muscle mass and could have a ground advantage strength wise. Both have similar backgrounds with Martial Arts, Judo, BJJ, Muay Thai and Boxing. Both hold Black belts in equivalent fighting forms. I just don't see Silva easily submitting GSP when both are Black Belts in BJJ. Both fighters have won 5 fights by submission, GSP has lost one by submission and Silva two by submission. Neither has been submitted since 2004. If Silva were to win it would most likely be by an unorthodox kick or punch that would catch GSP. Looking at both guys skill levels I wouldn't bet on the fight because it could easily go either way.
gsp's black belt and silva's black belt in bjj are from two very different places. while both black belts, silva's is on a higher level. I'll give you that the 04 example wasnt a good one. gsp having more muscle mass doesnt help him in anything except taking silva down and holding him there. muscle actually does the opposite in striking and sub skills, doesnt help. silva is better on feet, no one can argue that. gsp much better wrestler, no one will argue htat. but on the ground silva is a little better. plus gsp just doesnt finish people. so to take silva doewn and hold him there for five rounds, ask sonnen how that worked out. its just too long to hold silva down and hope he doesnt catch you and knock you out of submit you.
I am confused here. Both BJJ Black Belts derive from Carlson Gracie BJJ. Anderson has trained under Noguiera who is a 1st degree black belt under Ricardo de la Rive Goded who is a phenominal BJJ student of Carlson Gracie BJJ. Yes he invented a guard named after him. GSP trains under Bruno Fernandez who is a third degree black belt under Carlson Gracie. So we have two people that have been trained by Carlson Gracie Students or their students. Are you saying that the teachings of de la Rive Goded are so far superior that Noguiera(one submission win in the last four years against worthless Tim Sylvia) is a better teacher as a first degree black belt under him than a third degree teacher under Carlson? Both have the same roots in their training and BJJ will not likely be a determining factor. Next I challenge you to take one punch from Anderson Sylvia and one from Cain Velasquez. I guarantee the bigger guy is gonna hurt a little more if he can throw a fast punch
there are many divisions under gracie bjj and the gracie family, so there is desparity between belts. and yes cain would hit harder than anderson, i would never argue against that.. 4 out of the last 5 fights gsp has ahd have went to decision. last sub win he had was 07 against matt hughes. yes he has a black betl and a good bjj game, but its just not the same. i cant begin to get into the many variations of black belts and all that. anderson has finished 11 out of the 13 people he has faced since coming to the ufc, he just has the killer instinct to finish fights, and i just dont see how gsp can hold him down on the ground for 25 minutes without silva finding a way to pull something off.
Anderson has had some of the worst fights in the last few years. Dana has not been happy on a few occasions with his goofy antics. I'm not saying GSP would smoke him by any means but many of those that have worked with him say he is a sponge and the fastest learner they have seen. His BJJ goes unnoticed because it isn't his primary fighting style, it is there as a blend of overall skill. I don't see Anderson wanting to go to the ground with a guy that is as good a wrestler as GSP with Good BJJ skills. GSP is a fast sucka and if he had Anderson down it could be interesting.
he had TWO bad fights, thats it. and they were becasue the person he was facing were two scared and didnt actually want to fight. he has had numerous fights that rank among the most exciting in the ufc. remember his dimantling of rich franklin twice, his one punch knockout of james irvin, his embarassing forrest griffin, the most recent vitor. come on, those two fights are poor examples.
The Vitor fight was a one in a thousand kick. I know of another MMA fighter that has used the same kick for years and never knocked anyone out. His performance in UFC 97 and 112 were horrible, especially his arrogance in UFC 112. I'm not saying he is bad by any means but he can be horribly boring to watch. As stated if this fight happens I see it ending with a strike or unorthadox kick, Anderson would be naive to try to play the ground game.
it might be on in a thousand, but so is a back elbow that knocked tony frykland crazy, so is the triangle he put on sonnen, so is the walking backward jab that sent forrest falling down. thats what makes him and this sport amazing, those things happen. gsp has had his share of boring fights too, laying on someone for five rounds. everyone has them.
