Unlearning hunting "facts"

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  1. virginiashadow

    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    The more I continue to hunt the more I realize unlearning old hunting "facts" about how to hunt is as important as learning new information.

    What days of the week to hunt. Time of day. Weather. October lull. Method. Scent control. And on and on and on. Most of it is just a bunch of crap. The only thing I've found consistent in every plan I make is which direction the wind is blowing. And the only other semi consistent thing I take into account is a cold snap. Other than that...screw it. Make your own "rules".

    I feel better just looking at what factors I am dealing with and make a plan. I dont care how the next guy hunts or what is new and cool in the hunting world. Dont let people or articles on hunting "facts" push you out of your game.

    Unlearn the crap and just hunt.

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    trial153 Grizzled Veteran

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    Amen.
     
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    BB4tw Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Hear hear!!

    I had a buck walk right under my stand yesterday. According to the TV and magazines, it should have never happened.

    I did nothing with scent control other than pick my stand based on wind and I wasn't even wearing camo.

    I was wearing my brown bibs and black carhart coat. I wear them to work so I smelled like a feedlot. Maybe that was a good cover scent.

    Fred Bear once said "The best camouflage pattern is called " Sit down and be quiet!" Your grandpa hunted deer in a red plaid coat, think about that for a second."



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  4. Hillbilly Jedi

    Hillbilly Jedi Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I agree. The more I hunt, the more often I find you can't predict what animals will do. The more time you just spend out there, the better chance you have.
     
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  5. gri22ly

    gri22ly Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Way to many people spinning tales to feed an agenda of some sort...and way to many folks buying into said tales, blindly preaching about said tales effectiveness. Virtually any scenario can be formed to fit the narrative after the fact. As the great Tom Clancy once said; "The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense".
     
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    pastorjim08 Grizzled Veteran

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    Sometimes it's just tales passed down from one generation to the next without even testing those "facts" out.

    Blessings..........Pastorjim
     
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    gri22ly Die Hard Bowhunter

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    And false information does more harm than no information at all. Because after one aimlessly wonders about, chasing ghosts, they have to make their way back to ground zero and start over...this has happened to me several times over the years.
     
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    WillO Weekend Warrior

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    There is a lot of money to be made from a bullsh1t must have product
     
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    Russ morton Weekend Warrior

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    Time in the stand or on the ground will always produce results
     
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    Scott/IL Die Hard Bowhunter

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    It is funny to think as a kid I thought success was bought in a bottle, or a call, or a stand, or some other product. Meanwhile my dad sat out there killing deer with a recurve, in a flannel washed with his work clothes. I would say it’s even worse today for new hunters. Aside from maybe buying property, it simply isn’t true though. While some are helpful tools, most media hunting isn’t real life for most hunters.

    As soon as I quit “hunting the wind” and started trying to understand how deer move with the wind, I started seeing better bucks, and I’m a long, long ways from being proficient, or even close to it.
     
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    Bone Head Hunter Die Hard Bowhunter

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    The wind is your friend. Put in your face and keep a sharp outlook. Other than that---stand time in the right area is king!
     
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    ruck139 Weekend Warrior

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    There are very few "facts" in hunting. Make sure you and/or your stand is in cover, sit still, be out there as much as possible, and aim small, those are facts!
     
  13. S.McArthur

    S.McArthur Weekend Warrior

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    Absolutely true, I had to dump all the "knowledge" I thought I had and start fresh. Finally put in real work that relates to my hunting area and took two good bucks this year.
    1 buck was kind of dumb luck, the other was slightly planned, but still luck.
     
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    Junior Die Hard Bowhunter

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    More scams to get people to spend money on the "latest & greatest".

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    OK/Sooner Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Amen! I hunt the wind as much as possible and try to hunt Big fronts.

    My camo is washed in whatever my wife uses and I haven’t sprayed down in years. Seems to work for me.


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    grommel Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Well said Shadow, agreed!! Hunt on brother
     
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    bucksnbears Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I'LL confess. When I decide to hunt, my mind goes into a whirlwind. Wind dirrection, food supply,rut activity, hunting pressure, and other factors are ALWAYS thought out.

    However, most of the time, a hang and hunt have the best results.
     
  18. ganderss2424

    ganderss2424 Newb

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    Scout more than you hunt! You will learn more! Shoot your bow as much as possible. Confidence is everything


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    w33kender Weekend Warrior

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    One thing I've learned the hard way is the functionality of a stand's platform. Is it wide enough to stand comfortably for long periods of time? Is it wide enough to slowly turn so you maintain good form with your feet? A narrow foot platform is only good for shooting while seated and only in one direction. Hard lesson learned this year. IMO, the industry makes a big deal out of the seat in their stands but too little on the platform itself.
     

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