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  1. rickmur

    rickmur Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Got this in an email,
    This Coming Sunday-- Set Your DVR for the Fox News channel at 9:00 PM eastern. Maybe this is why the White House has been discounting FOX. Sounds like this could be history in the making - someone may go down - either Obama or Fox News. It may be that Fox has been holding this information back due to the sensitivity of it and out of courtesy. But, Obamahas taken on Fox and it appears they are ready to spill the ugly beans of truth about the background of this individual who has had an extremely radical past. This Sunday, Fox News is going to air a very important documentary about Barack Obama, Sunday night at 9P.M. Eastern. The report will go back to Obama's earlier days, showing even then his close ties to radical Marxistprofessors, friends, spiritual advisers, etc. It will also reveal details about his ties to Rev. Wrightfor 20+ years, i.e., how he was participating with this man, and not for the reasons he stated. The report has uncovered more of Obama's radical past and we will see things that no one in the media is willing to put out there. It will be a segment to remember.
     
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    Id love to watch it, I'll be working :(
     
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    Correct Finch- I tried looking it up to and it does seem to be a hoax
     
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    Obama being a socialist a hoax!? Whaaaaaaaat!?

    You don't say!?











    (Welcome back sarcasm).
     
  6. Muzzy Man

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    Not a Socialist... Marxist. Marxism views capitalism as the chief enemy to their progress.
     
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    Does anyone have any actual facts? Any policies as an example of his socialist or whatever were calling it now views?

    What has he passed as a bill? I need specific examples please, thanks
     
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    Do you have any facts or policies he has passed or supported to prove your claim? With important vote coming up we all need the facts, so please post.
     
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    Fox news . Propaganda machine at it's best. Hey i got this e-mail...must be true:lmao:
     
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    A good starting point is to read the actual documents.

    http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/index.htm

    http://www.americanhumanist.org/Humanism/Humanist_Manifesto_I

    A couple good books are:

    World Christianity and Marxism by Denis R. Janz

    Comparative Communism by Gary k. Bertsch and Thomas W. Ganschow

    As far as Obama goes, you will hear phrases like "Redistribution of Wealth" and un-defined descriptions of "Change." The money given to the auto manufacturers was a purchase of manufacturing by the government in exchange for the authority to dictate the specifics of their businesses.

    The refusal to allow drilling is another heavy handed over-reaching policy of the government into the prosperity of state's like Alaska, South Dakota and Louisiana.

    Public education is another target, mentioned specifically in the Humanist Manifesto. Pay close attention to the names of some of the signers and you should see much of what has been happening. One of these guys is John Dewey, considered the father of modern education. You probably remember the Dewey Decimal System from the school library.

    A major challenge is going to be able to suspend your own belief systems as you read. Knowing that we are all products of what we have been taught to a great degree. But as you read, you will probably see where the authors Marx and Engels believed that it is the government's job to teach children and to control what is taught. I have to ask, how is that working out? We are nowsomething like 25th in the World in education. After all, parents cannot be trusted to choose what their children should be taught. And we don't even have to get into the revisionist history of the Constitution.

    And to be fair, we have really not had a president either Dem or Rep for some time, who understands how desperately off track we have been since the 40s, if not earlier, with the lone exception being Ronald Regan.

    Just take the time to read and see if any lightbulbs come on.
     
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    That's all great, but still no facts on a specific policy by Obama.

    An economy where the top 1% of the 1% have outpaced everyone else by a lot in growth is the past 30 years is broke.

    Until I get actual facts and specific policy about anyone that I can read I ignore all news media.

    Not drilling for oil and destroying more of our planet is not a bad thing. It's time we pay the piper and solve this problem. The lazy way out is to drill.

    Ever heard of cancer alley, look that up:(
     
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    Please, I am discussing with you... I don't mean to be argumentative at all. Please forgive me if I cross that line.


     
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    You're not, but like anyone I ask to state a policy of current president that is socialist or marxis they cannot. Stewart showed fox news flat out lying and making stuff up about an Obama speech. Stewart shows all three "news" station making stuff up and both parties.
    Issue with Obama for most is he won and their guy lost. Guess what unless moderate Romney comes back, republicans are in trouble again.

    Here is an actual fact, worst job growth in the country for a state is Wisconsin who lowered taxes. The socialist state of Ill. ranks number 3 and they raised taxes, what? The issue is our economy is way more complex than it was 30 years ago. We are not competing with free open markets on a global scale like we were. We need for our free market companies to work with state local governments and bring in NEW companies to our country. Right now we are playing the risk game with current companies in the states. State A offers company in state B more incentives to bring their HQ to State A. State B loses that revenue and now goes after a company in state C. That is what I call a death spin, we are doomed if we keep heading down that same path.

    Not just LA with a cancer problem, it's anywhere there is a refinery. We need a better solution and we need to start working on it now.

    We need to invest in this country is where I think we all agree, it starts with our kids and their education.
     
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    Way to take all the fun out of it. Since when do we need facts to push our views?

    Scare tactics > Facts
     
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    Where would you rate Obama care that the people clearly did not want and the people proved it at the next election?

    What about trying to force catholic hospitals to provide birth control. IMO this is unconstitutional AT BEST and communist at worst.



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    True, trying to fix a healthcare problem is hard. I do not agree with that policy, nor do I agree with states forcing a women to have a ultrasound.
    Do I think it's socialism? Not at all.
    What do you call people using ER on our dime?
    There is no one plan for healthcare, but as long as facts are debated I am good.
    IMO Obama is over reaching with the catholic hospitals.
     
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    I'm okay with cults being regulated.
     
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    In his own campaign he stated we should share the wealth. This is also socialism imo. He is having trouble passing some of his ideas but that doesn't change what he is or what he stands for.

    It scares me to think what he might try in a second term when reelection isn't an issue.:confused:

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    haha, funny man you are. What would you call NBC?
     
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