Trump's Interior Secretary Pick...Thoughts?

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by MGH_PA, Dec 13, 2016.

  1. MGH_PA

    MGH_PA Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Posts:
    10,475
    Likes Received:
    323
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Cogan Station, PA
    I know public land access comes up on here a fair amount, and I, too, have increasingly become more interested in the issue since listening and reading to Randy Newberg.

    Trump is set to appoint Cathy McMorris Rodgers as the Interior Secretary. She doesn't have the most pro public land track record.

    What are your thoughts? Curious to hear from both sides of the aisle (I know we have both pro public land guys and those who want land in states hands).
     
  2. remmett70

    remmett70 Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2015
    Posts:
    2,421
    Likes Received:
    394
    Dislikes Received:
    6
    Location:
    Rothschild, WI
    From what I've read, she seems to be pretty center. while she has supported selling of federal land, it has been pretty selective what land. She is for forest management and supports the delisting of the wolves.

    Seems like "environmentalists" don't like her which is a + in my book.
     
  3. dnoodles

    dnoodles Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2012
    Posts:
    8,726
    Likes Received:
    10,148
    Dislikes Received:
    13
    Location:
    People's Republic of IL
    I'm not much of a fan of federal "ownership" of lands. With a few exceptions; I'd rather have the states control it.
    I'm just glad he didn't pick Palin. Not that I hate her but everything she did would be a lightning rod and create massive hysteria and media meltdowns...wait, that might not be a bad thing.
     
  4. MN_Jay

    MN_Jay Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2009
    Posts:
    2,152
    Likes Received:
    138
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    West Central Minnesota
    Sold


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  5. TEmbry

    TEmbry Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2008
    Posts:
    6,325
    Likes Received:
    16
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Anchorage, AK
    There is not one solid case in the history of our country of Federal Land being turned over to the State's and it turning out good for public access.

    If they truly are being selective and only selling off checker boarded land locked pieces then I can see why it wouldn't be a big deal.... that isn't the case.
     
  6. TEmbry

    TEmbry Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2008
    Posts:
    6,325
    Likes Received:
    16
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Anchorage, AK
    I do think we should do more to decrease the financial burden of our public lands on the taxpayers... but I don't think selling the lands is the answer. Trim down on how many employees we have, streamline the bureaucracy of these departments, look into selective foresting to increase the health of the land overall, and as much as I hate to say it... land use fees. I adamantly believe public lands should stay public, but I also believe that everyone as a whole shouldn't have to pay for my free access to these lands. State DNR's are self sufficient by issuing licenses and tags, I feel that public land can operate in a similar manner.

    And for the love of God, QUIT contracting out the only profitable parts about all of our national parks. Makes no sense for us to maintain the parks in all aspects, then allow private companies to run the bus tours, own the lodges, etc.
     
  7. trial153

    trial153 Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2011
    Posts:
    8,358
    Likes Received:
    1,780
    Dislikes Received:
    29
    Location:
    NY
  8. trial153

    trial153 Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2011
    Posts:
    8,358
    Likes Received:
    1,780
    Dislikes Received:
    29
    Location:
    NY
    Ryan Zinke a good as you can hope in a Republican on this issue.


    Land Tawney, president and CEO of the Montana-based Backcountry Hunters and Anglers, described Zinke on Tuesday as “a straight shooter” who has established credibility with outdoors enthusiasts in the state. During a recent meeting with him at a distillery in Whitefish, the congressman’s hometown, Zinke walked into the place in flip-flops.

    “You wouldn’t know he’s a congressman,” Tawney said. “He really prides himself on being a Theodore Roosevelt Republican, and he lives that a little bit more than other people.”
     
  9. MGH_PA

    MGH_PA Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Posts:
    10,475
    Likes Received:
    323
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Cogan Station, PA
    Good to hear. I wasn't finding too much in the way of official confirmation at the time of posting.

    Wyoming's governor would have been a good choice as well.

    Sent from my Turbo 2.
     
  10. trial153

    trial153 Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2011
    Posts:
    8,358
    Likes Received:
    1,780
    Dislikes Received:
    29
    Location:
    NY
    I am very pleased with this appointment. Next to Mead I think Ryan is an excellent choice.
    Hearing Randy speak well of him as well as Land I value their opinion highly. This is excellent news in the unfortunate climate we find ourselves in and I think Trump so far has lived up to his rhetoric of being anti land transfer. Now let's see what happens if a bill lands on his desk.
     
  11. Sota

    Sota Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Posts:
    24,019
    Likes Received:
    13,576
    Dislikes Received:
    72
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Does he want to delist wolves too?
     
  12. trial153

    trial153 Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2011
    Posts:
    8,358
    Likes Received:
    1,780
    Dislikes Received:
    29
    Location:
    NY
    Reposted via Big Fin ( Randy Newburg)



    Congressman Zinke, from my state of Montana, is the best of those under consideration for Secretary of Interior; at least in my opinion. His nomination was being pushed by many in the hunting community. Most involved would say that the nomination of Congressman Zinke was aided by the influence of Donald Trump, Jr.
    Congressman Zinke is a hunter. Zinke has stood against the crazies who have promoted the position of selling the public lands of the west.

    His critics will point to his positions about reform of land management rules, his opinions on litigation reform, and his emphasis on forest management. If it is like most nominations, everyone will find something in his record of which they are critical.

    Those of us who pushed for his nomination are thankful to see it come to fruition. He will be on a hot seat, as the left will not like his positions on land management policy reforms and his strong defense of keeping public lands in public hands will make him a target for the fringe elements in his own party.
     
  13. elkguide

    elkguide Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2012
    Posts:
    5,651
    Likes Received:
    4,238
    Dislikes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Vermont
    Zinke is a very good choice.
     
  14. Invisible man

    Invisible man Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2014
    Posts:
    257
    Likes Received:
    15
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    SoCal
    If California owned the Fed land there would be no hunting here. I am for more Fed land.
     
  15. dnoodles

    dnoodles Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2012
    Posts:
    8,726
    Likes Received:
    10,148
    Dislikes Received:
    13
    Location:
    People's Republic of IL
    the underlined parts are diametrically opposed.
    Hiring all these new federal employees would add to the public burden. Federal pensions, benefits...who is going to pay for all that?
    Think of the US Postal Service, my friend. Amtrak. Billions in dollars in debt, and for what? A public "service" that hardly anyone wants or is outperformed by the private sector.

    I think the feds could turn over most of the lands to the states - as some sort of public trust. Private owners do it all the time.
    As for those in Commiefornia....sorry about your luck. Best advice I can give is to vote with your feet, and take your tax dollars elsewhere if you can.
     
  16. TEmbry

    TEmbry Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2008
    Posts:
    6,325
    Likes Received:
    16
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Anchorage, AK
    You think companies like Aramark are losing money by running the tours and lodging on our National Parks? They profit off the only profitable parts of these lands and leave the rest for us.

    I agree it can't be run the way the current government runs things but we are talking of what reforms we want right? USPS shouldn't be done away with, but prices should go up and delivery days cut in half etc. there are ways for government to provide services without hemorrhaging money.


    I do understand that my stance on public land is starkly opposite of my overall stance in favor of smaller government. It's just an important part of what makes us a great nation IMO and should be preserved since we already have it.

    The actual appointee is a far better choice than the woman rumored for the past week IMO. I hope he gets approved


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  17. trial153

    trial153 Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2011
    Posts:
    8,358
    Likes Received:
    1,780
    Dislikes Received:
    29
    Location:
    NY
    "I recall FWP recently stating there are around 140 verified packs, which represents a number far greater than the original target. I have talked to ranchers and hunting guides across the state and they put the population in the 2500-3000 range. No doubt, the woods now belong to the wolf, and the game and other predators are feeling the pressure. First, we need to get an accurate number so they can be effectively managed. Second, we need to protect the ranchers and restore the depleted game herds by reducing the number and range of the wolf. Third, we need a sustainable state and locally controlled management plan based on ground truth and common sense," Ryan Zinke
     
  18. Sota

    Sota Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Posts:
    24,019
    Likes Received:
    13,576
    Dislikes Received:
    72
    Location:
    Minnesota
    I am not a tinfoil hat guy but I think the gov't employees that are in charge of estimating the wolf population in different states are either pathetically incompetent or they are lying thru their teeth.
     

Share This Page