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Trump just doesn't give two happies

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  1. MN_Jay

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    OK hotshot, you are the president of United States and you've just ordered all borders closed to any and all immigration.

    In retaliation the Middle East, Mexico and Canada has halted all crude oil and natural gas export into the United States. Winters beginning and there is no way to heat the homes of millions of Americans. Many try to heat with electricity which overwhelms the entire power grid, cascade outages are reported all over the country.

    What's your next move Mr. president?


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    Plus Trump has a point too often the US takes people in with a plan to fix the problem later. Just once I would like to see our Gov't have a solution in place BEFORE we allow people in rather than the way it is done now. If countries do not accept the US's sovereign right to control our borders, well tough crap.
     
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    How would you get it to the lower 48?

    Sota, I beg to differ, if you didn't need to import natural gas then why would you? Developing it locally has to be way cheaper than buying it from other countries.

    The point being, you would collectively piss off the entire world by shutting down the borders. There would be trade retaliation, and to think that you could brush that off is looking at it through blinders.



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    They need us more than we need them. Without the US buying their products the world economy would tank and they would come crawling back to us.
     
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    I'm not saying you're wrong, there is a problem and it has to be dealt with. But Trump and other people yell these extreme measures to be taken without looking at the big picture. They do this because they don't have to, they can just criticize the people that do.

    If Trump does end up being president, I sincerely hope he does close the border to all Muslims so he has to deal with the aftermath. He'll quickly find out that it's one thing to say the words and quite another to clean up the mess afterwards.


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    Simple as that right? Why wait, just bomb every country that we need something from.


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    That will not solve the immediate need of people freezing.

    Now oil prices sky rocket, gas is 5.00 gallon. Now what?

    Talk is cheap, even for "The Donald". There is no quick fix, unless Marty Mcfly and Doc can travel back in time.
     
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    umm, no. This is a OIL driven economy, without it we are screwed.

    Closing the border is on my top 3 also, but just slamming it shut will have consequences, I want to know what they are and how they will effect my family.

    If unemployment goes through the roof, a terrorist will be the least of our concern.
     
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    Basically, yes. Take a look at how much of their economies are dependent on us, 76% of Canada's exports and 67% of imports are with us. What are they going to do without the US? And we have the resources to be self sufficient if we want, we choose not to because of cost. Also look at how much of the world food supply the US produces.
     
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    We can supply more than we need if push comes to shove.
     
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    In how many years? It's not a faucet, LOL
     
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    Longer than they can hold out without the US imports and exports. And of them we are the only one with a military capable of going and taking more if we decided.
     
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    I'm good with that:)
     
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    What's all those war machines run on? Fairy Dust?

    So when there is an Oil shortage how do you propose we get food to the stores? Medical Supplies to hospitals? How much damage are you willing to do the American people as president to keep it safe?

    FYI ISIS wants to do exactly what some here are proposing. We would play right into their hands.
     
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    Germ it could be done but it would involve evil corporations with evil CEO's that would profit, and we know you think that isn't very nice.
     
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    We do have these things called nuclear vessels. We could send the boy scouts north to take over Canada if we need to increase our supply

    The entire these countries are going to shut us off because we quit allowing their citizens to immigrate is idiotic at best in the first place. It would never happen.
     
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    ISIS believes that these are the end times... So i say we go over there and do exactly that for them. Blow them off the face of the map. They want us to come destroy them so they can get their 72 virgins. My question is why do you want 72 women who don't know what to do? In all seriousness, we can't shut down the borders and no one is going to be able to stop a specific religion from coming in to the country. I do understand where he is saying we need to do something until we figure it out though.
     
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    Plus Canada could give a crap about immigration, Mexico on the other hand....
     

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