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Tru Fire Hardcore issues

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by LittleChief, Jul 23, 2013.

  1. LittleChief

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    Okay, this is getting irritating. Last year I picked up a Tru Fire Hardcore release. I'm now on my sixth string loop with this release. The issue seems to be getting worse. I just put this last loop on four weeks ago and it already looks unsafe to shoot.

    There are no burrs on the hook. It's as smooth as a baby's butt. Besides, the loop isn't being cut on the inside. It's being cut on the top left of the outside. Wierd.

    Does anyone have any idea what on the release could be cutting the string loop on the back side? I know that the back part of the hook assembly has sharp corners. I wonder if a weak return spring could be allowing the hook to whip around, letting the sharp back corners hit the string before it clears?

    I sent an e-mail to customer service a few minutes ago. It'll be interesting to see how long it takes them to reply.
     
  2. Justin

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    Hmm...that's an odd one. Got any pics of the release along with the loop we can look at?

    I have a Hardcore thumb release that I've been using for a few months and haven't had any issues to speak of.
     
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    That's really odd I know that I have a spot Hogg Friday night delight thumb release with an open hook and the corners are pretty sharp. It isn't affecting my D loop but this could be your problem. heres a pic.

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    i dont know if these picks help any, they're kind of bad.
     
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    I love mine...no issues. I have a Hardcore Max.
     
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    Beagle001 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Ive got one too and had no problems whatsoever. Actually, that's why I switched from my Scott. Chewed thru loops like loco
     
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    maybe you got a bum one? 3-400 arrows from my Hardcore with no loop damage.

    I have noticed that my string seems to be turning more frequently (peep and loop rotating offline.) Already had 2 adjustments, and I noticed today I need another one.

    I wonder if our issues could be related- the stress of the hook being only on one side of the loop could create significantly more torque. Maybe your loop is slightly rotating (twisting) as the hook tip passes, and nicking what is the back of the loop at rest; but upon release actually torques/twists around to become the inner part of the loop, contacting the hook tip upon release. Just a theory.
     
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    I took these with my iPhone just now. Not sure if the resolution will be good enough to help on the release. It clearly shows how bad off the loop is though.

    After looking more closely at the release, the hook can't be swinging around enabling the sharp corners on the back to contact the loop. It doesn't swivel that far.

    I got an answer from Tru Fire less than an hour after I sent the e-mail. They said to send it to them and they would put a new hook on it. I guess I don't have much choice if I want to keep using this release. I've still got my Scott Sabretooth as a back-up in the meantime.
     

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    wow that loop is really chewed up. definitely not safe.
     
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    Do you use the same loop material on all of them. With that type of release you twist it up a bit more and therefore it has extra stresses, so it will naturally wear out quicker. I noticed this on mine, however it was nowhere near that bad and after a whole lot more shots. My loop material looks much different than yours. If I get my phone back from my daughter soon I'll take some pics
     
  10. LittleChief

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    I'm sure all of the loops weren't the same material. The original was put on by one shop. Some of the others I did with material bought from another shop. This last one I got from a friend.

    What I don't understand is why it's chewed up on the outside of the loop. Seems to me that if it were the release it would be chewed up on the inside.
     
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    That sucks chief. I have the hardcore max, an have never ha a single problem with it. It might just be the hook system itself is bad. I have never had to deal with them on a product. I hope they get back to you quickly an can take care of the problem. Keep us posted.
     
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    at least they offered to replace the hook and are standing behind their product
     
  13. SouthDakotaHunter

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    Obviosly something going on there.... Another option - You could try an Osborn Firecracker Dloop - they have serving around the string where the release clips onto the string at. I've got one on my primary rig and it's by far the best string loop I've ever had (far as holding up)...

    One thing I couldn't tell from your pic is it almost appears the string loop knots are on the same side of the string - maybe that's not the case... But if they are - I was taught to put one end on each side of the string - hard to believe that could be adding that much pressure to your dloop when shooting - but just thought I would mention it...

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