TRT/HRT/getting older

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  1. Ridgerunner3

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    Since we are all fighting Father Time and there are enough of us "old farts" around here, I wanted to ask if anybody here has any experience with Low T or other HRT type treatments they wouldn't mind sharing. Of course it is kind of personal, but I just thought I would ask, since I'm going through with the assessment now.
     
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    I'll follow along on this one. I've done a tone of reading about this and even talked to my doc about it. Haven't been tested but I would pretty much guarantee that I would qualify based on symptoms. My biggest hesitancy in doing this is cost and the general consensus that once you start, you really don't want to stop. I've kind of adopted the "wait as long as humanly possible" mentality.

    I have a friend in his early 50s who started TRT in his late 40s and can't say enough good things about it. Energy, mental focus, muscle building, recovery, libido, etc. But he's also a wealthy business owner with nothing but time on his hands, so he can afford to go get weekly shots. I don't know exactly what he pays, but it's not cheap.
     
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    I am 56 y/o, have been taking T replacement meds for last 5 years. I have tried gels, shots and was finally put on a new oral med about 1 year ago “Jatenzo”. It seems to work the best and is certainly the most convenient to use. Energy level is up, mood has certainly improved. I have experienced no adverse side effects.
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    Pretty much dead on with my experience with folks I know and I have all the symptoms of low t as well. No it ain't cheap! All my buddies tell me don't wait, so here I am about to go in for my consult in a few mins. Labs were done last week. Ugh.
     
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    Apparently one option for me is a pellet inserted into lower abdomen or butt. Yeah I'm talking to a doc today actually. Thanks for the feedback!
     
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    How old are you? I'll be 42 next week and still have plenty of energy, but losing weight and gaining muscle are next to impossible for me. No matter how clean I eat, how much protein I take in or how much I lift, I pretty well stay the exact same. It's a struggle just to maintain, let alone try to see any sort of advancement.

    My old PM at work was mid 40's and got on TRT and within 3-4 months he came in one day with a t-shirt on and I was like "WTF happened to you?!?! Looks like you're on steroids". He said he felt like he was 25 again and at that time didn't have any side effects to speak of.
     
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    About 5 years ago, routine blood work at my annual physical showed that I had low T. I tried TRT for one dose; the effects lasted for less than 24 hours. My doctor then did what he should have done first before recommending TRT: analyze my lifestyle factors. At that phase in my life I was in the final semester of my master's degree working on my thesis, my wife and I were fostering the son we adopted and he had only been with us a couple of months, my wife was also surprise pregnant with our third child and my FIL was going through his worst period of depression/PTSD, I was also working about 50 hours/week and only sleeping about 5-6 hours per night. Stress, lifestyle, and sleep deprivation can all contribute to symptoms of low T. I know from talking with you, you are in rough time in life right now. Make sure your doctor knows that before trying TRT. Consider doing what you can to take better care of yourself; reduce or eliminate alcohol consumption, get at least 7 hours of sleep per night, try to eat a little healthier. Maybe give that a try for 30 days or so and see if thing improve before trying the TRT. TRT may be very needed for you, but, it is worth trying other things first, and realizing that your temporary difficult times, are in fact temporary.
     
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    come on now, you guys can always use Nugenics, Shaq and other over the hill ball players swear by it .... :confused: :lol:

    at 64 and still a runner/racer, I try to eat healthy, well semi-healthy anyways, never thought about a supplement for low T, it is a part of aging, same as BPH (enlarged prostate, if you dont have it, YOU WILL).. ... I do find my recovery times are longer, run times have dropped, I dont expect to do 5:20 miles like I used to but I'm happy doing 9's and that is blazing fast at my age ... I no longer do marathons, but will run a half marathon and several 5 and 10k's yearly.. I'll keep going till I cant, just got back in from doing a 5 miler, now time to go to work ... ... been running since 1977 BTW, started in the Marines, and now it is part of my life style, just like BOWhunting .. my first race was the Honolulu Marathon, been running/racing ever since ....
     
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    I'm 45. I have been working out pretty intensely--3-6x per week on av--since January and feel you on the difficulty in bldg muscle and dropping fat. I do see a difference in my body, but I'm the same weight and still have the same "round the middle fat" and I don't really have any big "gains" to speak of. That isn't the reason I started working out anyway, but dangit, if I were at it this hard in my 30's I'll guarantee I'd be in a different category. And yeah, I know not to expect to be on the cove of Men's Fitness after 8 or 9 months, but I think you get my drift. Energy isn't an issue really, for me, it is the lack of drive and how bad I tend to beat myself up for the results of that lack of drive. Like I said, I check all the low T boxes. I put this off for at least 2 years and had co-workers, like your PMs results, and they were telling me you'll wish you'd done it sooner. That was 5 years ago.

    At least get checked by a specialist. Most reg docs just go off "in the range for your age".
     
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    I was very honest with this doc about all my issues and situation. So clinically, I am not on the Low T diagnosis. However, there are other factors in my labs that indicate I could use more to influence my thyroid irregularities. For now I'm going to try it to see how things go. I agree with the lifestyle change aspect above and have been doing exactly those things for 3 mos and I did drop a waist size, lol. I do feel better in the depression department, no doubt! It's some other factors driving my decision at this point. Hell, I would take my situation over what you were going through every day and twice on Sunday over yours. I can't imagine. I appreciate the advice, brother!
     
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    Awesome, man! All those things are about you and I'm really happy it works for you. Not everyone has your mentality, genetics, opportunity and drive. Oh and my prostate is just fine, sir.
     
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    Diabetes runs in my family .. my dad had it, my uncle (dads bro.) had it, doc says Im below the threshold but watch it ... dad was a beer guzzler and heavy smoker, uncle a smoker, I'm neither.. both were slowly chopped up, veins replaced, ugly crap ... I said at a early age (20's) that aint gonna be me, so far, so good.. yearly check up's at the doc and then urologist are coming up, PSA and regular blood tests, the Doc will *****, I'll say yea, ok and continue on with what I'm doing ... stay away from sugars, alcohol only in moderation and by god DONT SMOKE, watch your diet as for the prostate, 80% of men will experience symptoms by age 60, I take meds for it (Flowmax and Finesteride), I piss fine, had it diagnosed 10 years ago, no cancer then and now...
     
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    I don’t have any personal experience but it is a topic that has become more interesting and relevant the older I get(51). I haven’t done any real research on this topic but I’m interested to hear about peoples experience as well.
    I will say I’m a bit skeptical but that’s my nature.


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    I don't have much to add to this other than when I get stressed/lack of sleep/poor eating, that I get sore physically. At certain points over the past year ive taken prednisone for my eye infection and every time I do, my energy levels rise and my sense of well being increase rapidly. Joints feel better, muscles stronger due to less inflammation, and I feel more mental clarity. I swear its something about inflammation that just messes with my mental state. Not sure if its me dealing with pain or something with serotonin or what......
     
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    I'm 45 and have a familial history of certain cancers, it's time to get the ol' :poke: and PSA test; might as well see if I need to 'man up'. It's covered by my health insurance and since I don't really go to the doctor for anything else, might as well get some bang for my buck.

    I just hate taking any kind of prescription drug. Like freaking hate it.
     
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    I've been on Prednisone a few times for poison ivy or respiratory issues and I notice the same thing - I feel like a million bucks and like I could climb Mount Everest in a pair of shorts and Crocs. The downside is that I don't sleep more than 2-3 hours a night.
     
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    Can't get treated for low T, little steroids as possible, guess I have to accept getting and feeling old.
     
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    The sad reality is for the first 20 or so years of my marriage I chased my wife around and got denied. Today that's all she wants to do and I prefer a nice knap.
     
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    Just a note for those of you that are or might take prednisone. I took two rounds of it to fight long-covid. It definitely helped short term. I also experienced unlimited energy and a great mental state. It was amazing! But, it also gave me cataracts in both eyes and I had to have surgery on them. It does not happen often, but it can cause cataracts and did so in a very short time. Just a fyi.
     
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    Are you implying your wife's libido has increased with age? If so, please have her share the secret with all of our wives.
     
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