X2 a field point and mechanical are essentially one and the same Too many use mechanicals as a crutch. Definitely not a trap to fall into. IMHO Tuning and perfect arrow flight are as important to penetration as any of the variables, maybe more so. I killed 2 deer with fixed blades this year and one with mechanicals. It's always nice to know your bow is in perfect tune. For me it's a Fun thing to do Dan
That was the point of introducing mechanicals ? I didn't know that. I agree with your points regarding peoples ignorance due to mechanicals. Increasing DW in order to achieve additional penetration, to me, is stupid. Changing DW can affect the performance/tuning of the bow. I dont go to extreme lengths to tune my bow, but, I do enough to ease my mind. I was told, by people I trust, that it's tough to get modern bows with the type of rest I use, perfectly bare shaft tuned. I get it as close as I possibly can, then, go from there.
Even the exact same weight arrow distributed differently is a Horse of a different color. That definitely could cause you some problems. You have to remember in the overall scheme of things arrows are very light 437.5 grains equals 1 ounce. It takes very little weight to affect flight. Dan
and.... and Ok, so what I can surmise, is that you have a bit of a weak spine with the 100gr tips, then switch to the 125, and the spine only gets weaker. Not a lot, but we're talking .340's put in the place where something .32 or .31 is needed. This is a start.... The "Master" speaks.... Not EXACTLY how I do it, but EXACTLY how it's supposed to be done.... Bret, If you were to buy a pack of GOOD BH's, and BH tune your bow, in the end, you'd find that you shot even your FP's a little better. I know for me, I didn't initially buy it, but now everything I set up gets zero'd, walked back, then BH tuned (first at 20-25yd, then I walk back to 40 or so w/ the BH's and re-tune if needed). WRONG ANSWER.... Changing that tip weight changes your spine, you can make up weight, but it weakens the spine, thus changing impact.... Exactly, and in the end, as I said above, you usually find you also shoot your FP's a little better. Each of us has our own way, some different than others but not necessarily wrong. We also have our tolerances, again some different than others, but still not wrong. Archery and bowhunting are INDIVIDUAL sports/hobbies/whatever, and each of us decides what he personally likes best, and then from there makes adjustments as he sees fit. We can always guide each other along the way, but in the end, we each make our OWN individual choices.
Try dropping your bow down to around 65#, and re-tune using both a 100 and 125gr to determine which will tune better, and I suspect you'll be pleasantly surprised. And that 10fps isn't that big of a loss in the overall realm if it means you can get tuned a little better.
Exactly! Speed is So over rated. I like my hunting rig to fairly quick the things I see people do to gain a few fps or even 10 is crazy. It won't make a difference! It is Not a Drag Strip! Give me Nice speed, Quiet, Well Tuned, and as forgiving as possible. That's from a Hunter's viewpoint Dan
Welcome.... You have probably some of the BEST tuning guru's availabe at your disposal here (not counting myself because I'm just a "rough" tuner), use that resource and use it wisely in the end, it will make you a better archer, and likely a better hunter as well.
Agreed. My rig is well tuned. Couldn't ask for any better tuning. I'm shooting a devastating broadhead with the actual criteria to back it. Heavy hitting arrow at 290fps. Plenty fast for me. The set-up with bust nocks at 60yards..
DT........come on DT. 7000 square foot farmhouses I can buy, but how may nock(s) have you really busted at 60 yards with all of your setups combined?
octhereicome- Do what Bruce tells you but be just be warned, when you tell your buddies at the bow shop or archery range what you are doing, they will look at you like you have lobsters crawling out of your ears. I'm not kidding. Don't say I didn't warn you when you discuss it with the "weekend warriors" of archery.
It's not a "farm" house, per say; it's a very large house that happens to be on a farm Honestly, I've busted more than a few arrows at 50 and 60 yards. I had my second ever robin hood at 60yards, if you can even call it that, the second arrow would only stuck in to the bulge in the field point. I'm a very good shot with my bow, but, it's come with a lot of practice, and, I keep getting better. And to answer your question, I'm not sure how many, total. It's happened more than a few times, but, I consistently practice out to that range, and, I've started to shoot to 80 and 100 yards a bit more, these day...Which is a TON of fun; I dont expect much in the way of grouping, but, at least I'm hitting the block, consistently
Shooting light arrows??? Light set-up??? What arrows are you shooting, maybe that's it. Should've shoved up in there a little more I'd have thought. I shot one using a 58# bow that sunk in pretty deep at 28yds, I'd think a 70# bow would have as much KE at 60yds as a 58# set-up at 28yds.... unless the arrow was light..... Back to OT2 to do a little test..... :D Just a touch less if the bow is the same IBO, but not much 56ft/# with the bow I was using at 28yds, and if it were a 70# bow, it would've been 58ft/# a drop of 14ft/# of KE over that 60yd flight.....and loss of 28fps using a 420 gr arrow in a 70# 308 IBO bow.
