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Tressel Resigns

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwu3D-Luo-E

    You sure they didn't let you go because you had no idea what you were talking about? Kinda like now, with LBJ and HOF quaterbacks?
     
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    Here comes

    Johhhhhhhnnnnnnnn Coooooooooper

    “Compliance is not doing their job when this kind of stuff happens and they act like they don’t know about it. When I was coaching over there, compliance was around everywhere. It’s almost like they were trying to find us violating a rule."

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xj1...rts-espn_sport
     
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    As for them letting me go, one I walked away from the other cost them 26 more of their nurses after I was fired, trust me, I know exactly what I was talking about. Take a low blow if you like, your Tressel FANBOY banner's looking a little tattered.

    Principles - a rule or code of conduct (Something Jimmy conveniently forgot about....)

    And likewise, if you compare statistics, LBJ is a superior player to MJ at the same point in his career, and I've said LBJ was likely the BEST basketball player ever since long before Pippen said so....
     
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    I am not saying LBJ cannot one day be the greatest ever.... Although I doubt it for a few reasons...

    MJ would have won at least one if not two championships with the cast of teammates LBJ had his last two years in Cleveland.

    MJ did not subscribe to the "if you can't beat them, join them" mentality that LBJ does. Could you ever see MJ asking Bird and Malone to team up? That's a joke.

    MJ had killer instinct that LBJ lacks at this point in his career.

    People argue if LBJ or Kobe is better.... There was no one in the same stratosphere as MJ for people to compare him to.

    Jordan was a self made champion just like [​IMG] not a "potential" groupie champion like LBJ.
     
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    Really??? Which player that played in Cleveland with LBJ was a future HOF'er in his prime??? As I recall it, MJ had a sidekick named Pippen who was pretty good, but I for the life of me can't recall a STAR next to LBJ in Cleveland.

    Statistics would say otherwise....

    And that LAST GUY was a winner with another coach's players if I remember correctly....

    Neither here nor there, I HOPE that Fickell or Meyer, or Pelini, or whomever can restore a bit of order back to the program and give it a little more solid moral ground to rest upon.

     
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    Bwahahahahahahaha!!! Thats good stuff right there. Sometimes I can't tell if you're being serious, or just saying crazy stuff for a good laugh.
     
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    OK that was good.... The moral ground thing. :D

    I know Pelini has a huge temper and has been reprimanded for his sideline antics in Lincoln.

    I do not know a whole lot about Meyer, other than his unflattering nicknames....

    I am really pulling for Luke Fickell. I am against Pelini coming to C-bus. I am indifferent right now with Meyer if Fickell doesn't work out.
     
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    Serious as a heart attack..... If you don't "aim high" then you'll never reach the top.....

    Sadly, I think it seems as if some of you guys have given up on anyone having good ethics, morals, honor, and integrity.

    If I were a coach in Tressel's position, those guys would have likely been DONE playing football at OSU, or at a minimum served a maximum sentence for their actions. Likewise, if I'd been the coach of Minnesota last year when one of their players went off in one of the asst. coach's faces (during the OSU vs. Minnesota football game), that young man would have played his last down of college football for my team.

    I threw a kid out of a ball practice several years ago, and told him he could come back when he wanted to be serious and quit messing around. I removed him from the field, and let him know that playing ball was a privilege not a right. That young man came to the next practice, and apologized to both me and the other kid he was giving a hard time, and once he realized I was serious, and he learned to respect me and his teammates, he ended up having a good season. If you don't COMMAND respect, then you'll never have it or keep it. I believe this is where Tressel's downfall started. I saw it two years ago when TP would throw and interception, and come over to the bench and basically diss anyone who tried to talk to him, and you could see right there he had an attitude problem and did not respect anyone on the coaching staff. RESPECT must be present for a good healthy coach/player relationship. Those of you who think I'm blowing smoke either don't understand the relationship, or were a disrespectful player/teammate at some point.
     
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    I want to be like OHbowhntr when I grow up. He's awesome...just ask him.
     
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    I truly wish I lived in a world that was so black or white.
     
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    I'm not saying I'm "awesome," or without fault, but I AM saying I can objectively look at something and make a determination. Is it all black and white??? Hell no, but SOME things are, and if you're willing to lower your standard for one thing, then where does the bar come to rest???

    Tressel is unemployed this week because of his own doing, and he can blame no one but himself. He really NEVER owned up to his mistake in December or in January, or in March when I saw him speak. He only acted like someone who was sorry he got caught.

    He could have done the RIGHT thing, and he didn't, and now he's paying the consequences for his actions. If you cheat on your taxes and get audited, then you should expect to pay the price for cheating on your taxes...... If you have unprotected sex with a woman, and she becomes pregnant, then likewise, you should be prepared to deal with the consequences.

    It's a pretty simple concept. I have two kids because I wanted to, I don't have any "oops" because I was RESPONSIBLE. I don't have a DUI like many of my friends, and both of my brothers, because if I'm gonna go out and enjoy what would be considered ONE TOO MANY, then I'm gonna have a driver or get a cab. If you guys think that's "oversimplifying" it, then you're SIMPLE!!!
     
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    For Doug... One of many just like it.

    In Defense of My Coach
    It is always sad to see a hero fall. It has happened to me a few times, and for a few different reasons. Mario Lemieux was taken from the game of hockey as he reached his prime to battle illness. Tiger Woods lived a double life and is now a shell of the man who used to make the world shake with the reverberating roars of galleries across America. Those were my sporting heroes.

    Men who stood at the pinnacle of their respective professions and made a legitimate difference in people’s lives.

    I thought that watching them lose their air of invincibility would be the hardest way to see a career end. I thought that I would never feel so hopeless again, because I would never be as young and impressionable as I was when I let these men become such a large part of my life. Then again, I thought Jim Tressel was invincible.

    Let me start by saying that I will not blame my teammates for any of this. Am I mad at them? Yes. I am mad as Hell at them for some of their actions. I am furious they cast aside our symbols of brotherhood and victory for a few hundred dollars. Those rings and Gold Pants were supposed to remind us forever of what we were a part of. Those rings were supposed to clank off of each other as we shook hands at our 2010 Rose Bowl Champs 25th anniversary banquet. Those rings were a part of our legacy to be carried on to our grandchildren as they looked at us in our rocking chairs and wondered how in the world we used to be champion athletes.

    But who am I to tell someone what is important? Show an 18-year-old some money and give him some power, and you have a recipe for disaster. Put yourself in their shoes and tell me you would be able to resist temptation. You can’t. Tell an 18-year-old that he is the greatest enough times, and he will believe you. It comes with the territory.

    Coach Tressel made the choice to try to account for his young players’ transgressions and move forward into the season with one of his most talented teams ever. It’s a choice he now undoubtedly regrets.

    In my brief time at the top level of the amateur game, I learned one thing to be true without fail: If you succeed, people will hate you. And if people hate you, they will try to bring you down. Look at Auburn. If they went 2-4 through their first six games, would jealous Mississippi State boosters have come out of the woodwork to rat out Cam Newton? Fat chance. And along those lines, there is an even fatter chance that both Gene Chizik and Cam himself knew nothing of Cecil’s plan to shop his son. Examples are abundant. Bob Stoops knew nothing about the tens of thousands of dollars Rhett Bomar took for working a no-show job? Yeah, and I’m dating Beyonce. Dig deep enough anywhere you want, you’re eventually going to hit the dirt.

    The difference is that when the others got caught, there was no proof. Coach Tressel reached out to people he thought may have an influence on future decisions made by the players (the quarterback’s “mentor”), and in doing so, sealed his own fate. The nail in his own coffin came in the form of a concerned e-mail.

    Do I think Coach Tress was in the dark about the alleged ongoing violations by his players? No way. I always thought that man knew everything. My freshman year he approached me, a mere walk-on back-up punter, and asked me how my parents and two sisters were doing. He referred to them all by name! We had about 120 players on the team and he knew every person in all 120 immediate families. He knew because he cared.

    He made a promise to our families to take care of us and he did everything in his power to fulfill that promise. He made us read books that would help us in life, write reports about those books, and present them to the team. The first thing we did every day was reflect and pray. There were constant reminders about how lucky we were to be playing a game for a free education and a chance at a better life. He made us sit through hours of brutal meetings with the compliance office almost every week. Believe me, we all knew what was legal and what was not legal. He brought lawyers and policemen in to warn us about the dangers of drunk driving, nightlife, and hanging out with the wrong people. He put us in hospitals to interact with patients, and introduced us to the military.
    He taught us that there was more to being an Ohio State football player than just football.

    We had a responsibility to present ourselves in a positive way, as we were representatives of so many things so much bigger than ourselves. Apparently, some of us could not handle that honor.

    To some of us, there were different priorities, and becoming a man under the watchful eye of millions around the world was too much. George Dohrmann from Sports Illustrated suggested that Jim Tressel lost control of his football team. Quite the contrary. The Ohio State Football culture took over Columbus. Coach was the only reason there WAS any control on this football team. Ask the troubled former receiver. Ask the star quarterback. Our mistakes occurred away from his watchful eye.

    Our mistakes had nothing to do with Jim Tressel.

    Coach Tressel had one goal for each and every one of his players. He wanted to put us in the best position possible to succeed. Both on the field and off. He taught us that complacency was not an option, and that we could only be the best men that we could be if we learned every single day. He taught us everything he could, and gave us resources to learn what he could not teach us.

    I want to look him in the eyes and thank him for the chance he gave me. I want to thank him for the life I live today and the doors he opened for me along the way. I want to thank him for introducing me to BuckeyeNation. I want to thank him for my rings and for my gold pants. I want to thank him for allowing me to live my dream and for the happiest moments of my young life.

    He always said, “On your best days be great. On your worst days, be good. Every other day, get better.” Let’s just say that today, the Ohio State community is only good. But thanks to our Coach, we will always be better. Go Bucks!


     
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    The main hang up I have with Tressel, besides the lying and coverup, was how he ignored what was happening. There is no way he doesn't see players driving these cars. Same with the Clarett situation. He just chose to ignore it. He may not have set up the car deals, but he sure didn't do much to stop it.
     
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    I can understand your thoughts. The thing about the cars is everything has checked out ok so far by tOSU, BMV and NCAA. TP is the only one still under any scrunity. I will wait to judge until the facts are cleared.

    Also, of the 9 new players named in the SI article, 5 have already been cleared by the ncaa. There will be multiple lawsuits from the wrongfully accused against SI. John Simon and Storm Kliens families have already attained legal counsel.

    I also hear of the 9 one may be in a little trouble. No idea who yet.

    The "cover up" is what bothers me greatly. I just cannot understand it.
     

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