Trayvon Martin vs. George Zimmerman ....

I want him ARRESTED! Then I will calm down .... the stupid idiot is in hiding when he should be iin custody! If you ask me, the police are trying to cover their azz .... if they would have arrested him, this would not be the circus that it has become ....

 

So, he was still allowed to carry after being charged with assaulting a police officer?

I'm all for the right to carry, but if someone has a history of assault (drunk or not) they don't deserve that right.

 

So Sanford has a high crime rate, what does that have to do with this? This makes it okay for Zimmerman to be paranoid and take action into his own hands?

"We don't really know what happened" is about the only legit defense to support Zimmerman at this time. Saying Martin smoked weed, or was wearing a hood, or it was dark, or was in an area with a high crime rate, are not legitimate excuses for killing him.

We don't know what happened for sure. We many never know. I have read enough of the "facts" about this case to be surprised if he isn't arrested and charged with something. I don't think we know enough at this point to accurately say if he will be found guilty or not.

 

The D.A. denied the request to arrest him based on lack of evidence to convict. He should be jailed even though current evidence is not sufficient enough to prosecute?

 

Correct. Does that statement relate to this case though? Is a young black male walking on the sidewalk a perceived threat in your eyes?

 

Dan as a gun owner and CCW permit holder this bothers me also.

 

No you don't, I do not have any right to question anyone walking down the street who is not breaking any laws.

I have the ability to do so, but it is not a right. The Bill of Rights was created so we all have the right to be left alone.

 

Well yeah! Haven't you heard of the NDAA? You don't need any of that pesky evidence crap.


yes this is sarcasm...

 

Of course, because obviously Zimmerman perceived Trayvon as a threat.

You're not going to like this answer, but in my neighborhood, if I saw a young black male, walking down my street at night, with a hood on, my awareness would be raised the rest of the night. So the answer to your question is "yes".

 

But why did he consider him a threat? You are okay with his reasoning for Martin being a threat? A young black male wearing a hood and walking on the sidewalk.

Sadly, many would agree with you. But remember a black man was not a rare sight in Zimmerman's neighborhood. Does that change anything?

 

I don't know the circumstances to how Zimmerman came about perceiving Martin as a threat. But I know he did. Is it right? No. Do we all do it to an extent? Yes. We all make judgments of people based off their appearance, and our past experiences with people of similar appearance.

 

While it may involve different races that doesn't mean someone was persecuted because of it as it has not been proven that Zimmerman was racially motivated, but he had to be right...I mean the kid was black and surely zimmerman wouldn't have followed or questioned an asian person, or a native american, or a white guy under the same circumstances. Right? Someones physical appearance and their ethnicity are just a couple of several things that would make up their race but hey here in the US we like to simpify everything...hell we only recognize like 6 races and many people think there are 3..black, white, & other. But I digress, how about the human race? That's what I want to be labeled as.

 

Yes, of course

 

...or hispanic, or oriental, or white for that matter. If they are acting suspiciously.

It's very interesting to me how this has become such a race issue. ???

 

I agree this happens all the time, but many times those judgments are just thoughts. When you take action based on those judgments, that is when a problem can occur.

I feel like some of you are just taking bits and pieces of this case, on both sides. Zimmerman has made many calls to 911, including the one regarding Martin, and many times his reasoning was because he saw a young black man after dark. To my knowledge, he never once saw a crime being committed. How does that not show a pattern of racial profiling?

 

Not if all the "suspicious acts were committed by young black males.

 

Agreed

It most certainly shows a pattern of racial profiling. I don't think anyone is arguing that it's not.

 

Kind of like all the terror attacks were committed by young middle eastern males.

 

Sigh...

I don't even know what to say anymore.

While I expected a lot of the responses that have occurred in this thread, I'm still disappointed.

 

Me too, my awareness like yours would be raised, but that does not give me any rights to question him.

When I am in a park with my kids and I see a 25-50 year old white dude alone with no kids, my awarness is raised also.

There is nothing wrong with watching any kid walking down the street. Nothing wrong with watching anyone.