Trayvon Martin vs. George Zimmerman ....

I'll wait to see the evidence before making up my mind. Everything so far looks awful damning, but who knows.

 

C'mon Raceway, you know we can't 'let a good tragedy go to waste'. There's opportunity here for race-baiters and gun-haters and the media that loves to play the people.

Meanwhile Chicago already reached it's 100th homicide for 2012 last week.

 

In other news.....http://www.wsiltv.com/news/three-states/Governor-Quinn--144480265.html

 

Homicide detective wanted to arrest Zimmerman after Trayvon's death but prosecutors said there was not enough evidence

The lead homicide detective in charge of investigating the Trayvon Martin shooting wanted to arrest George Zimmerman for killing the unarmed teen, the state attorney's office decided volunteer neighborhood watchman should go free instead, it was revealed Tuesday afternoon.

Chris Serino, an investigator with the Sanford, Florida, Police Department, believed Zimmerman should be charged with manslaughter for shooting the 17-year-old in a gated community in Sanford Florida, according to reports.

But the local state attorney overruled him, saying there was not enough evidence to convict him of a crime.
Serino wanted made a report that we should arrest Zimmerman for manslaughter in the killing of Trayvon Martin because his story did not match the physical evidence nor what he said initially.

Manslaughter carried a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison in Florida.

The startling revelation, citing anonymous sources who leaked the information about the initial hours of the investigation of the shooting. according to an account that was leaked to the Orlando Sentinel.

But apparently Mr Serino didn't entirely buy Zimmerman's version of events as the investigation unfolded.

 

So how did Zimmerman get the busted up nose and back of his head? We all know that homicide detectives aren't always right. Again, it is asinine to speculate or take a side until the full story is known and investigated by federal authorities.

 

How can you "stand your ground" when you are following someone? If his premise it was self defense, well then Zimmermen is in trouble IMO. You cannot follow someone and stand your ground.

IMO Trayvon was standing his ground if we follow the letter of the law.

 

And this right here is the platform of you that seem to be missing the fact that:

A 250# adult that was mentally disabled and/or has a God complex wanted to play cowboys and Indians, while in his vehicle, followed a teen as he was walking with Skittles (yeah those are dangerously loaded with sugar ... I mean they will just kill your teeth) and a pop.

He called the police, was told,

"We don't need you to do that." (That is what was said, Christine) He should have let the Police check out the "intruder". God complex
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He ignored the police and got close enough to the teen for the teen to ask him, "why are you following me" and the Death Wish said, "what are you doing here"

The rest is speculation, but what I have typed makes him guilty of SOMETHING!

BTW, Zimmerman was charged with assaulting a police office in 2005, so that says alot right there ... oh yeah, and for those that wonder ... the policeman was black.

If George Zimmerman had not left his vehicle and heeded the police dispatcher's guidance, we wouldn't be talking about this today​

 

Questioning someone is not a crime. ​

 

Some thing tells me this law will be under review in the future.

If Zimmerman doesn't shoot Martin, according to the law, Martin wouldn't have been charged with beating the crap out of Zimmerman. But Zimmerman gets beat up and then shoots Martin, so now the law is on Zimmerman's side? The man who instigated this entire situation.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

 

I'm fairly ignorant of law (the only law I've ever studied is environmental law), but I believe in the case of self defense, once you disable the threat, any action past that you can be charged, correct? See the pharmacist murdering the thief last year. If it's true that Trayvon was smashing Zimmerman's head against the concrete, that might could be viewed as excessive force.

 

But shooting a person is not excessive? If you can kill someone, I'm pretty smashing their head on the sidewalk still flies.

 

If someone is smashing your head against the concrete, and all you can do to save your life is reach for your gun and pull the trigger, would that be excessive? If that was all he could do at that point?

I don't know.

 

What aren't some of you people getting??? A young man is dead and there is only ONE person to blame .... Charles Bronson.....er, I mean Zimmerman ..... I really think some of you just may be letting how you would have acted justify Zimmerman's actions .... others I believe ARE racist, or at least scared of young black men .... but outside of race, Zimmerman killed a man armed with ....SKITTLES

 

I suppose.

I still don't understand how you can pick a fight with someone, begin to lose the fight, and then kill them. That seems unfair.

 

Maybe Zimmerman hated skittles? He could be more of a shock tarts kind of guy. Did you ever consider that before jumping to conclusions?!

 

If I walked up and started to beat Vito and smashed his head against the wall, Vito should do whatever it takes to save his life.

If Vito was following me and confronts me now I may believe I need to do whatever it takes to save my life. hence I am going to beat on him until he does not move

Zimmerman cannot claim self defense he was folloing the kid.

 

I think it's fairly obvious, and has been pointed out numerous times in this thread, that the case is a little more complex than you are trying to make it.

 

And I just wanted to spoon.

 

Oh I completely agree. I 100% believe that Zimmerman is guilty of manslaughter.

 

Guilty of what? Bad judgement maybe, but nothing illegal. It's not illegal to follow someone you think is acting suspiciously. It's not illegal to ask them what they are doing. Good Heavens, we need more people who care about their neighborhoods and will watch over them while everyone else hides and looks away. This guy had been doing neighborhood watch for awhile and as far as I've heard... he never assaulted any other suspicious people... so why should we think he started now?

Says what? He was 21 and drunk and partying with his friends at a bar. It makes him a idiot but hardly a racist. Did you know he and his wife sometimes tutored black kids for free on the weekends?
Trayvon was caught with stolen jewelry in the past. Should we read into that?

True. And if Trayvon hadn't of run, hadn't of slammed Zimmerman's head on the ground, we wouldn't be talking about this either.


I think that if you think you should always listen to the police dispatcher... well, then you've never lived in a high crime area and tried getting the police to do something.