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Traditional Papertune

Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by KodiakArcher, Jan 19, 2010.

  1. Kanga

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    I totally agree with Joe.
     
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    If anything they're a little loose. They will stay on of their own accord but just barely.
     
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    But if you look, I get a consistent tear amongst one shaft size. That tells me that the release is a constant. The only variable in that last photo was the spine weight of the shaft.
     
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    How do these bare shaft (the ones you used to paper tune)? I wouldn't dream of paper tuning, until I was "close".

    IMO...those tears are indicating you're not (close).
     
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    That was actually the Griz Stik Sitka from the first photo at 30", 145 grain head, and 100 grain insert nocked at 1/8" above center. It consistently tore 2.5 - 3" nock high through the paper. Moving the nock position up or down from that point only made the tear higher.
     
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    That's what I've always done in the past.
     
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    Let me ask this another way.......

    What's the best you've ever had a shaft bare tune? Give me the orientation of the nock when it was stuck in your target.

    Also...(and I suppose you know this)....a "too low" nock position can give you a false "high" reading.
     
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    Nock slightly elevated on the bare shaft but bare shafts grouping with fletched.

    Yep. that's why I tested everything from 1/4" low to 3/8" high in the first pic.
     
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    I'll exit, Rob. Bare shaft tuning, I look for a "slightly nock high" / "slightly spine weak" reading.

    When I get this, I fletch.

    After I fletch, I paper tune.....but I don't get anywhere near the readings you're getting.

    Puzzling.
     
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    Exactly why I started this thread. I'm confused to say the least.
     
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    The reason I said that, Rob.....is those tears don't indicate to me that you'd get a "slightly" nock high bare shaft reading.

    That's what is puzzling.
     
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    Yep I agree. I'll keep tinkering when this weather clears up.
     
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    I wonder Rob If you didn't have a bad release with your 2018's and 2218 arrows? Identical tears. Maybe try them two again and see what the tears look like.
     
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    Those are both 2018's Steve. The 0 just looks like a 2 in the lower one. Is there such a thing as a 2218?
     
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    Lol!! Was kinda wondering If that was 2018 as well. :D Do they make 2218's, wouldn't surprise me If they do/did.
     
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    Rob.

    Just for sh!ts and giggles try a bare shaft through paper;)
     
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    If you do that......I hope you don't get a bullet hole. I wanna see it, though. I'm interested!
     
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    Just curious Jeff, why you say that?
     
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    It would tell us if it's the fletching hitting the riser that's causing the kick... good point there Russel! I knew I came here for some reason. (just so that we're all clear... yes, they are feathers, not vanes.)

    I may have thought of something last night, I only bare shafted these arrows to 10 yards... not 30 like I normally do for my compounds. (I ran out of daylight.) I may need to revisit that as well.
     
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    I honestly thought you were shooting bare shafts when you did your paper tune. I now understand why Jeff said what he did.
     

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